grannys gone and done it

[Sally Sunshine]

oh dang I forgot hugs campin

and everyone!

 

[lindalouly]

Ms. Louly you have email

I got it and also a five pound pork sirloin. I'm doing it soon!!!

 

[campingshaws]

I though sticky chicks were caused by low humidity but now I am super confused...

And I thought high

[@=/u/162672/Sally-Sunshine]@Sally Sunshine[/@] SALLY ~ HELP NEEDED AT GRANNYS HOUSE

sorry electric was off all day from this wind, tree down across the road
[COLOR=000000]CHICKS Wet? Sticky? Stuck? Yellow Gel? What did I do Wrong?[/COLOR] post #25379

I'm three hours from day 19 but haven't put them in lockdown yet. I unplugged the turner this morning, but they're still upright in the bator, low humidity. Is it going to mess them up to lay them down now? [@=/u/162672/Sally-Sunshine]@Sally Sunshine[/@] [@=/u/362374/LocalYokel]@LocalYokel[/@]

I always lay to hatch unless shipped campin, have you candled for internals? good luck! and get that humidity up!

I haven't done anything. Experimenting with better methods for upping humidty because the 6 jars I used last time made me a nervous wreck. Grew a migraine that I'm trying to shake before I box up these wild heathens and dump them in the woods. You know: the usual.

 

[campingshaws]

oh dang I forgot hugs campin   and everyone! 

Thx Sally.

 

[lindalouly]

I got a sick and feverish boy laying on my hip... Poor baby, I was hoping that bug would not hit us.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Tell Jake granny says Happy birthday !!! all 6 of them kids look the same just different ages. You quit your job ?

LOL You go girl.. Chicks are doing great and are now running to me when Lil Twist and Abby does. Monkey see...... I bet you are right about Twist though. hahahaa

 

[Granny Hatchet]

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CHICKS Wet? Sticky? Stuck? I wrote this when discussing some things about call ducks this mornin... sharing here.


There are two types of sticky chicks

Sticky embryos (embryos may be smeared with egg contents / yolk residual present) (yellow jelly/jello or other fluids)
HOWEVER, a green and gray tinted fluid can be caused from osteomylitis or meconium)
causes: any/all combination of the following:
high average incubation humidity
low incubation temperature
lack of sufficient ventilation
too many drafts of outside air in the hatcher
BREED ISSUES: Always avoid cross breeding in breeds that carry lethal genes.
are we aware of Lethal genes for this breed of duck Rav?

Embryos sticking or adhering to shell
causes: in any/all combination of the following:
Low incubation humidity (especially during hatching)
Excessive ventilation~ reduce rate but maintain minimum air exchange to prevent suffocation of embryos.


To confuse you a bit more, the amount of water that a chick has in its own tissues (not the albumen) has been shown to increase during incubation under perfect conditions; however, rate of egg water loss is found to have no effect on embryonic water, how could this be if we get big wet chicks from high humidity? Makes you think outside the box, perhaps it is in fact LOW TEMPS not the hearsay on humidity? Although AGAIN combination is usually the factor.


TEMPERATURE: Incubation temperature is one the most critical factors during embryo development, AGAIN studies have shown the optimum temperature is more 99.9. NOT FORGETTING that also its optimal to drop in temps during hatch, as I suggest in my article Hatching Eggs 101 in the lower day 18 section. So it may be worth a shot for you, and I am not clear on your temps or calibration, Hammond found that a bit higher incubation temps increase chick initial body weight believe it or not, at the higher temp 99.9 the higher the rate of egg water loss in the first 16 days of incubation. What I have found is when I incubate at a slightly elevated temp 100 to 100.5 calibrated I have much cleaner hatches. They found that its the opposite with low temps, body weight of chicks were less. Then you get into the additional factors of adding low high temps with humidity and ventilation.... Best we can do is work these areas to achieve absolute and relative weights. IN KNOWING THAT and then factor in that EACH EGG & breeds are different in age, air cell size, genetics etc.
I run at 100.5 calibrated spot on temps, rotating eggs n the bator often.
this chart shows ultimate incubation temps from studies.

In the Hatching Eggs 101 article I threw together some info for lowering temps at hatch as well

 

[Granny Hatchet]

its the second one. and where it says to confuse you even more,, I have no idea what that says.

Enola, I think you are correct . I should have lowered the heat. I took the bottom basket to the closet and that whole basket is dead. 6 eggs in that one.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I haven't done anything. Experimenting with better methods for upping humidty because the 6 jars I used last time made me a nervous wreck. Grew a migraine that I'm trying to shake before I box up these wild heathens and dump them in the woods. You know: the usual.

I think she didnt catch your question and responded to mine instead. If you dont want to lay them down you can use an egg carton. I did one . cut a hole off the bottom.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I got a sick and feverish boy laying on my hip... Poor baby, I was hoping that bug would not hit us.

poor guy, its really going around. scary to think about. Hope he feels better quick.