Great Depression of 2016

[rufus]

I am afraid that Hamas and Hezbolla have been supplied so many rockets and other arms that Israel may have a tough time of this. Worse, we don't know who has the previously declared "non existent" weapons of mass destruction. They may reappear in a most inconvenient time and place.

If the Shia Hezbolla come to the aid of the Sunni Hamas, we could see Israel hit with rockets from both the south and the north. Luckily, there is no love between these sects.

 

[rufus]

Is Weird Al Yankovic the son of Frankie Yankovic, the polka king? He was a real big star back in the 1950's and 1960's in the upper midwest. I remember him and Johnny Whoopenfarten would draw people for miles.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Is Weird Al Yankovic the son of Frankie Yankovic, the polka king? He was a real big star back in the 1950's and 1960's in the upper midwest. I remember him and Johnny Whoopenfarten would draw people for miles.

No his dad was named Nick Louis Yankovic.

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[oldrooster]

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I was under the impression what helped drag us into Europe's WWII battles was in part the sinking of an American ship that was caring arms to the Allies....

What got us into the war in Europe is that Hitler was stupid enough to declare war on us.

I was taught in high school this was what was the tipping point of going to war in Europe, Hitler was just another stick on the pile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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I was under the impression what helped drag us into Europe's WWII battles was in part the sinking of an American ship that was caring arms to the Allies....



What got us into the war in Europe is that Hitler was stupid enough to declare war on us.


I was taught in high school this was what was the tipping point of going to war in Europe, Hitler was just another stick on the pile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania
Dont think it was a tiping point as the Germans sunk a lot of ships like that that had hidden ammo on board. That was the big issue though. We were the supply chain. The president wanted to join the war an the people did not. We became the supply chain till enough happened for the US people to be willing to join the war. Japan bombing us is what set it all off in the end an forced us to join. That was the plan. Supply, supply, supply till they fight back an make us part of the war...

 

[rufus]

Uh, I am afraid the sinking of the Lusitania might have brought the US into World War I, but it was sanctions against the Japanese Empire that supposedly provoked the bombing of Pear Harbor and our entry into World War II. However, the US had been supporting the Soviet Union with a Lend Lease program, for which they never bothered to re pay us.

Germany and Italy were treaty bound to enter the war. Hitler and Mussolini should have had the good sense to disavow the attack on the US. They already had enough enemies. They went for broke and lost.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was planned well in advance. The Japanese Navy had practiced their routine on other locations with similar geography.

Not all nations declared war after the attack. Some nations never declared war against Germany and Italy. The Soviet Union finally declared war against the Japanese Empire days after it became obvious that the US would win the war with nuclear weapons. They then seized the Kurile Islands and went into Manchuko.

Thanks to the Rosenbergs and Claus Fuchs, Stalin already knew all about the atom bomb. The story was that at a reception Molotov asked Vice President Truman how the Manhattan Project was going? Truman was totally in the dark. He told Roosevelt about the inquiry. Roosevelt just about had a stroke.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

We did a lot to get us in to that war...
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/McCollum_memorandum
7 October 1940
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[hemet dennis]

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I was under the impression what helped drag us into Europe's WWII battles was in part the sinking of an American ship that was caring arms to the Allies....



What got us into the war in Europe is that Hitler was stupid enough to declare war on us.


I was taught in high school this was what was the tipping point of going to war in Europe, Hitler was just another stick on the pile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania

You have the wrong world war. The RMS Lusitania was a big reason we entered WW 1, Not WW 2

 

[hemet dennis]

Uh, I am afraid the sinking of the Lusitania might have brought the US into World War I, but it was sanctions against the Japanese Empire that supposedly provoked the bombing of Pear Harbor and our entry into World War II. However, the US had been supporting the Soviet Union with a Lend Lease program, for which they never bothered to re pay us.

Germany and Italy were treaty bound to enter the war. Hitler and Mussolini should have had the good sense to disavow the attack on the US. They already had enough enemies. They went for broke and lost.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was planned well in advance. The Japanese Navy had practiced their routine on other locations with similar geography.

Not all nations declared war after the attack. Some nations never declared war against Germany and Italy. The Soviet Union finally declared war against the Japanese Empire days after it became obvious that the US would win the war with nuclear weapons. They then seized the Kurile Islands and went into Manchuko.

Thanks to the Rosenbergs and Claus Fuchs, Stalin already knew all about the atom bomb. The story was that at a reception Molotov asked Vice President Truman how the Manhattan Project was going? Truman was totally in the dark. He told Roosevelt about the inquiry. Roosevelt just about had a stroke.

Germany and Italy were only treaty bound to come to the defense of Japan if Japan was attacked.

The agreement with the Russians was that they would enter the war against Japan 6 months after the end of the war in Europe.

 

[hemet dennis]

We did a lot to get us in to that war...
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/McCollum_memorandum
7 October 1940
Quote: Just for the record, we didn't do all of those.

Do you think if the Japanese had stopped their aggression that we would have continued with the sanctions ? There would have been no more need to continue.

What if we had ignored what Japan was doing, and not helped England, the Free French, and Russia ? If the Axis powers had defeated England and Russia, who would have been left to help us against the Axis powers when the came for us ?