HA! Corn refiners want to change the name of high fructose corn syrup

[gritsar]

I don't have a problem with hybrids, neither the chicken version or the tomato version. My problem starts when *they* take that food to the laboratory to create something it's not.

 

[Katy]

Just something I have to add for all you who think that you're getting the best of the best at a farmer's market.

I have an aquaintance who sells a lot of "homemade" goodies at the market. She sells a lot of different flavors of hummus, apple and pumpkin butters, several different types of salsa, etc. I've had a couple of them and they're good, but not one ingrediant comes from her garden.....in fact she has very little garden at all. Her ingrediants come from grocery stores.

Don't get me wrong, I like farmer's markets and it gives small truck farmers another outlet for what they grow, but they just aren't always what they're cracked up to be either.

 

[gritsar]

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Have you checked out this link?:
http://www.localharvest.org/

Using this link will help you find sources for food grown in your area.

Thanks I didn't know about this site!

Hope it helps you. As I said in post #35, I know my neighbors and what they have growing in their OWN gardens.

Unfortunately it's not as much as it would be if we weren't in this darn drought.

 

[SarahBeth9394]

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Yep these are the people who spend way too much time coming up with ideas for laws like making driving while texting illegal. We already have laws that would include that in them like reckless driving and not paying attention laws. Then when they are done passing a total waste of time law they go and vote themselves a pay raise.

I don't care if it's called "high fructose corn syrup" or "corn sugar" or "corn syrup". I'll just go and buy a Dublin Dr. Pepper and get real Imperial cane sugar.

 

[Katy]

I haven't looked thru this whole site yet but what I"ve seen is pretty interesting on the different types of sweetners.
http://www.sweetscam.com/

 

[gritsar]

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Yep these are the people who spend way too much time coming up with ideas for laws like making driving while texting illegal. We already have laws that would include that in them like reckless driving and not paying attention laws. Then when they are done passing a total waste of time law they go and vote themselves a pay raise.

I don't care if it's called "high fructose corn syrup" or "corn sugar" or "corn syrup". I'll just go and buy a Dublin Dr. Pepper and get real Imperial cane sugar.

Is that a version made with cane sugar? I try to limit myself but I love pepsi throwbacks. Mountain dew throwbacks, not so much.

 

[True Grit]

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Thanks! That was fascinating.

 

[PaulaSB12]

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I have looked at stevia but it has just one problem ITS ILLEGAL IN EUROPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see that the subject of Stevia has cropped again recently. As some of you who have been with the forum a long time may remember, Stevia is a sweetener that is banned throughout the EU (including the UK). However it is widely used in Japan and South America. In the US it is licenced but with restrictions as to its use.

The reason that it is banned is because research has shown it to have two rather nasty side-effects. These are
1) it produces effects in the male reproductive system that could affect fertility
2) a component part of Stevia, steviol, is genotoxic (i.e. it causes mutations in DNA).

Unfortunately a website that has been mentioned recently in this forum states "The only allowed sweetener is stevia". Additionally a recent article in the Telegraph mentions Stevia as "the sweetener of choice".

Just to be absolutely certain that the UK ban is still in force I have checked with the Food Standards Agency and their response states
"Many sweeteners are not allowed to be imported or sold in the UK. This is because sweeteners and other food additives are tightly regulated within the EU and may only be used once their safety has been rigorously assessed. An example of a sweetener that is not allowed to be imported or sold in the EU is Stevioside, which is also known as Stevia rebaudiana Bertoni . This does not have clearance to be marketed in the EU as it is a high intensity sweetener, 250-300 times sweeter than sucrose."

 

[Illia]

Actually, Stevia is also widely used throughout other countries in Asia and also South America, being that it likes warmth and is easy to harvest.


Do you know how many plants out there affect fertility? And how many are Cyanogenic, or contain other toxins that are harmful in large amounts? Also, if a couple countries ban something that doesn't make it spawn of the devil - Raw Milk is illegal in almost all states in the US, as well as several other countries including in Europe, yet I'm still waiting on seeing someone die or get seriously ill from it.

Yes, I'm aware of the issues with Stevia, but there's issues with nearly every natural/plant based substance out there. . . The amount that is used is pretty miniscule anyway.


And I already mentioned, it's an acquired taste. Few people use it because of that, so, what's the huge worry? I don't use it much at all, (I just sample what I make for others) but I have a relative who does use it because she's diabetic.

 

[Katy]

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Actually people getting sick and in some cases dying from unpasturized milk was the impetus behind the rules and regulations that are in place today. As opposed to today people used to be yelling for regulation to protect them.