Hands on hatching and help

First time I've heard that one.

Really?
Yeah it still runs pretty rampant around here, so I try to point it out when I can.

And I'll apologize to @Ursuline Chick, I didn't mean to make less of what you did. Great save on your part. The "WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF" thing is just one of those myths that keeps spreading if we let it.
 
Really?
Yeah it still runs pretty rampant around here, so I try to point it out when I can.

And I'll apologize to @Ursuline Chick, I didn't mean to make less of what you did. Great save on your part. The "WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF" thing is just one of those myths that keeps spreading if we let it.
That happens to be what I had on hand anyway so, right or wrong, one less thing to worry about when I didn't have time to check on things. No big deal, I wasn't offended.
 
I'd give you an ovation if it would let me...lol One of the biggest arguements is "we only want the strongest". I think people tend to forget that when we are artificially incubating that we ourselves cause many problems and make unneccessary challenges for these chicks that they wouldn't be dealing with in nature. My very first assist was a very malepositioned pipper. After hours of not progressing, I widened the pip to asses the situation. I had little toes waving at me from above the beak....lol There was no way that she was going to get out herself, so I slowly started an assist, doing a little at a time before replacing her and giving her rest time. Once she had a big enough hole and could pull her leg down, she was able to push out on her own. She ended up being one of my best layers out of my first group and perfectly strong and healthy. Had I not helped, she probably would have died in the shell from exhaustion or dehydration or something. So I am very much for assisting when necessary. I'm sure there's been one or two that I helped that may not have needed it too, but hey, there here and healthy...lol I have only lost one in maybe a dozen of assists that I have done, and I believe he had digestive issues, something going on internally. He seemed healthy after hatch but had very runny poo that got worse and 9 days after hatch he died. The first 7 days though he was active and seemed to be thriving, so
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I hope others will join the convo and share their experiences as well.
 
Hi! Right now it’s been over 24 hours since my little goose externally pipped. (He never internally pipped and he pipped on the opposite end of the air cell). Anyways - he hadn’t made much progress before noon so I chipped some shell away and was able to have him stick his beak out without causing any blood. I saw that one of its feet was right above it’s beak like you experienced and was wondering if I should help it out more by taking off some of the shell or should I just wait it out? Thanks for the help on This!
 

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