Hatching Eggs / Paypal CHAT Thread

[mrheinz77]

I guess I'm confused too since the rules on page 1 of the swap say this:

All pure breeds of poultry are welcome in the swap. Easter Eggers are Welcome as all as they are non-standard color Ameraucanas. meaning mixed color Ameraucanas

- maybe I missed it somewhere else or it was discussed earlier in the swap thread and I missed that too

 

The way this reads is if they are pure Ameraucana but different colors, it is fine but if not, when crossed, they may not produced colored eggs. Example: Wheatan Ameraucana x Black Ameraucana = non APA color offspring OK.
EE (1 blue egg gene 1 brown egg gene) x EE (1 Blue egg gene x 1 white egg gene) not ok. Eggs will be blue, green, brown, and cream.

This is how I read the above statement.

 

[Nsampsel]

Quote: That's why I also put the CE in with it, since they are any mix not pure that produces a chocolate colored egg...same principle (also same pen & same roos just depends on which combination gets together as to which color eggs the babies will produce)

 

[9gerianMile]

The way this reads is if they are pure Ameraucana but different colors, it is fine but if not, when crossed, they may not produced colored eggs. Example: Wheatan Ameraucana x Black Ameraucana = non APA color offspring OK.
EE (1 blue egg gene 1 brown egg gene) x EE (1 Blue egg gene x 1 white egg gene) not ok. Eggs will be blue, green, brown, and cream.
This is how I read the above statement.

That's what I thought. EE's from a hatchery are never Ameraucana's even if they are called that in the catalog. EE's are mutts. So are OE's. That's why I was asking since OE's have been in multiple offers if that's okay or not.

 

[9gerianMile]

I just don't want to be "that guy" who screws up the rules and makes people angry. I'm new to these swaps and don't want to step on toes

 

[mrheinz77]

That's what I thought. EE's from a hatchery are never Ameraucana's even if they are called that in the catalog. EE's are mutts. So are OE's. That's why I was asking since OE's have been in multiple offers if that's okay or not.

Check out how hatcheries spell Ameraucana.

 

[9gerianMile]

Check out how hatcheries spell Ameraucana.

With an 'i' or an 'au' it doesn't matter, does it? Hatchery birds aren't Ameraucanas as far as I've seen, and not all of them use an 'i'. Have you seen differently? Hatchery Americanas or however they spell it, I haven't seen a good example of the standard of the breed they claim to sell.

Yes, there are people on this forum who have Ameraucana pens that may produce/include mismarked or miscolored birds, but those from hatchery stock are often mutts as far as I've seen.

 

[mrheinz77]

With an 'i' or an 'au' it doesn't matter, does it? Hatchery birds aren't Ameraucanas as far as I've seen, and not all of them use an 'i'. Have you seen differently? Hatchery Americanas or however they spell it, I haven't seen a good example of the standard of the breed they claim to sell.


Yes, there are people on this forum who have Ameraucana pens that may produce/include mismarked or miscolored birds, but those from hatchery stock are often mutts as far as I've seen.

I'm not saying that they are Ameraucanas. My thought is they spell it with an "I" so they can't be held accountable for not selling the actual Ameraucana. What hatcheries try to pass off as Ameraucanas are crosses. Then customers wonder why they don't get a blue egg.

I breed BBS Ameraucanas to the SOP and if egg color isn't just right the hen gous in the EE or OE pen.

 

[chiqita]

Interesting convo. I know I THINK of my OE's as mutts. While I THINK of hatchery ee's as non standard but non mutt. ee's have a certian look to them. I can say " that is an ee" I CANT say thats an OE because there are so many oe options.

Of course I'm a new chicken person, so my opinion in this particular issue isn't one Id listen to my opinions on But its intersting to see what everyones opinions are.

 

[cjwaldon]

I thought EEs were mutt chickens that lays blue (or green, pink, cream, tan, etc, etc.) colored eggs, and I thought OEs were mutt chickens that lay olive green eggs. Point is, you don't know what the chicken is going to look like. They are offered based on the color of the egg to be produced. I have four OE chickens that lay dark brown eggs, so obvisously they're not "pure". So to me EE and OE are in the same category. If one is acceptable, then both should be. So perhaps swappees could clarify if they are offering non standard colored Ameraucanas vs mixed breed Easter Eggers? Or also what they are crossing to get their Olive Eggers?

 

[Oregon Blues]

"Hen's choice" is an acceptable primary offer, .......................does that mean I could offer Hen's choice of FBCM's covered by a feather-shanked Blue Copper Marans roo, ...........

9gerianMile, "hen's choice" is a selection of purebred eggs, but whatever pen is laying to make up the offered amount. I will leave it up to the Marans experts as to whether crossing different color strains of Marans count as purebreds. I doubt it, but it is not my breed, so I don't get to be the one who says.

There is a separate swap for designer breeds if you look for it. Either called "designer breeds" or "Project Breeds", I don't remember which. It's located here in this section of BYC. You could swap your eggs there if it is requested that you don't offer them here.