Help! Humidity advice for large detached air cells!

[Mablethechicken]

I have 6 shipped eggs all but 1 have detached saddle shaped air cells. I found this out on day 8 from candling. I read an earlier thread about keeping them upright in an egg carton through the remainder of the incubation which I have done (it’s day 10 now). Prior to finding the detached air cells and doing more research on shipped eggs I had them on their sides. So they are now upright with the pointy end down. The thread also advised turning the humidity way down to encourage the air cells to shrink and reform at the top of the egg. This is my dilemma. I had decided to incubate at lower humidity intentionally because of what I’ve read. Since the beginning the humidity has been between 30% to 45% at the most. I candled today and my air cells are not only still saddle shaped - they are HUGE! (we’ll all except the 1 that doesn’t have a detached air cell - that one seems normal size) And from the pictures I’ve referenced way too big for day 10.

All are still full of veins and showing movement. Do I stay the course with the humidity or significantly increase it to slow the growth of the air cells?

 

[JaeG]

I'll tag a few people to see what they think because I'm not experienced enough to give a good answer.
@WVduckchick
@ronott1
@casportpony

 

[Mablethechicken]

I'll tag a few people to see what they think because I'm not experienced enough to give a good answer.
@WVduckchick
@ronott1
@casportpony

thank you! Really appreciate it!

 

[Mablethechicken]

Also wondering if the size of the air cells is due to the fact that they are detached and not because of the humidity being too low. In which case I wouldn’t have been able to do anything about it. But still wondering if I should bring my humidity up...

 

[WVduckchick]

Aren’t shipped eggs fun??

What I suggest is to re-candle the eggs, and concentrate on the actual “round” air cell space. Ignore the saddles for now, then decide if that particular part of the air cell is really too large or not. The saddled sections are usually just where the membrane is barely pulled away from the inner wall. So although they make the air cell look huge, sometimes they a really aren’t.
I have even drawn a pencil line around the air cell, solid where the air cells fully meets the shell, and dotted line where the saddles dip. Sometimes makes it easier to fully visualize the size.

Then you will be able to determine whether humidity should be increased or not.

 

[ronott1]

I agree with wvduckchicks advice!

Sticking with humidity in the 30 to 40% range is likely best for saddle egg cells.

 

[Mablethechicken]

Aren’t shipped eggs fun??

What I suggest is to re-candle the eggs, and concentrate on the actual “round” air cell space. Ignore the saddles for now, then decide if that particular part of the air cell is really too large or not. The saddled sections are usually just where the membrane is barely pulled away from the inner wall. So although they make the air cell look huge, sometimes they a really aren’t.
I have even drawn a pencil line around the air cell, solid where the air cells fully meets the shell, and dotted line where the saddles dip. Sometimes makes it easier to fully visualize the size.

Then you will be able to determine whether humidity should be increased or not.

super helpful and relieved that they might not actually be as large as they look. I’m attaching pictures can you take a look?

 

[Mablethechicken]

 

[Mablethechicken]

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You can see that the smallest of the eggs in the middle doesn’t look so bad except for being misshapen. The maran egg doesn’t appear detached but does still look largish for day 10 no?

 

[Mablethechicken]

Also so should I leave them upright like that for lockdown? I’ve read a lot of advice saying I should keep them upright but every picture I see posted of hatchings has eggs on their sides.