help me figure out what I'm doing wrong please

You two are incorrigible!
AmyLynn let you borrow her thesaurus?
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Overly high humidity will cause the chick to be bloated and fill more egg space, at the same time the air cell cannot grow enough to allow for movement, internal pip, and rotation for zip.
 
I have been having many problems with sticky chicks expiring. Eggs filled with Amber goo and I am running dry. Humidity runs anywhere from 20-40%. Climate is humid here. Still having problems.

That's odd if the interior of the bator is only 20-40% Even with the ambient humidity being high the bator is a controlled environment, in my logic, that shouldn't be happening, at least not due to humidity. Do you know if your hygrometer is accurate?
I want so bad to say something intelligent, but I have no idea
Just to show you how much I like you, I am going to keep my mouth shut....lol

You two are incorrigible!

My last hatch had a lot of chicks that were positioned with beaks at air cell, never pipped, and they were plenty moist. Some of them were clearly malpositioned, and wouldn't have been able to get into a position to make a viable pip. In fact, the first pip was like that. Had it's beak between legs, pipped way below air cell. I tried to help that one, but, it never was able to absorb the blood vessels in the membrane, and died the next morning, after I'd made a decent sized opening for it. It later started "foaming". Then, there were some that did not pip, and had dry membrane. In all, I consider it to be a dismal hatch. Had to help about 3, those did well. Two were clearly sticky/dry. One of them was huge, and definitely malpositioned. Had the one die in the shell, 1 clear, and 9 well developed but never pipped out of a total of 30 eggs set. So, final count: 19 good viable chicks/30.




AmyLynn let you borrow her thesaurus?
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I'd lend it to you too, but I don't have time to teach you how to read it....lol
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I have tried several several different ones and have salt test 2. They were off by 5. That still put humidity at 30-40%. All eggs make it to lockdown. I rarely lose any before and air cells are on target. I have tried anywhere from 60-75% at lockdown with same results. The chicks lost this hatched were either malpositioned or extremely sticky. They still have way too much fluid going into lockdown for the ones that died. I also had to help quite a few that I caught in time. They were stuck in shell.
 
I have tried several several different ones and have salt test 2. They were off by 5. That still put humidity at 30-40%. All eggs make it to lockdown. I rarely lose any before and air cells are on target. I have tried anywhere from 60-75% at lockdown with same results. The chicks lost this hatched were either malpositioned or extremely sticky. They still have way too much fluid going into lockdown for the ones that died. I also had to help quite a few that I caught in time. They were stuck in shell.
I'm wondering if it has to do with feed and nutrition of the laying hens. If they are producing eggs that are thicker shelled and less porous. I haven't gotten that far in my chicken adventures to where I've learned a lot about what different feeds/vitamins and nutrients will effect the shell quality.

Malepositioned could be a number of things.
  • Eggs were set upright, with small end up. Eggs placed upright in the incubator should always be set with the large (air cell) end up.
  • Advancing breeder hen age and shell quality problems.
  • Egg turning frequency and angle were not adequate. Regular turning of the egg through a minimum 45 degree angle assists the embryo to position for hatch. Eggs should be turned at least 3 times daily, though more is better.
  • Inadequate percent humidity loss of eggs in the setter. Acceptable weight loss of eggs during incubation is 11-14%.
  • Inadequate air cell development, incorrect temperature and humidity regulation and insufficient ventilation in the incubator.
  • Imbalanced feeds, elevated levels of mycotoxins, and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.
  • Exposure to lower than recommended temperatures in the last stage of incubation.
  • Round shaped, or overly large eggs.
  • Eggs handled, or stored improperly.
(Taken from Sumi's thread Diagnosing causes of alepositions and deformities in chick embryos)
 
Me too.  I asked, but they aren't answering.  But one set of turkeys comes out of the turner tomorrow night, so I'll be able to ask them in a couple of days.
I had 8 when I went to bed last night. Too many to count this morning. Looked like about 4 or 5eggs left with at least 3 good pips, so I left them that way when I left for work. Just imagine AmyLynn, there's at least one chick that has been in there for 24hrs...
 
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