Help My silkie she has wry neck ! She is back outside picture update

[luvchicks8]

It is from her face her eyes are runny snd smell sour almost. her poop is normal.

 

[JenEric Farms]

What about sour crop? Would that cause the smell and possibly the neck issue? Don't know why it would cause runny eyes... I have no idea, just stabbing at ideas...

 

[threehorses]

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Can you get Sulmet? Or do you have penicillin? Those are the two drugs that target Pasteurella. I really think that's what this is as it's a weird smell, not fetid and horrible like Coryza, and pasteurella can have torticollis (wry neck) as a symptom - but then again if this is beginning coryza then Sulmet treats that as well. Fewer things treat Cholera (pasteurella).

Are you able to get her to eat anything by the way? I missed that part.

 

[luvchicks8]

She eats alot 2 cups a day and drinks but I have to give her water from a dropper but eats out of bowl on her own. What is pasterella?? Is this contagious? My other chickens show no signs of illness? Do tractor supply store carry this sulmet? I am going tomorrow.

 

[threehorses]

Pasteurella (if this is it) is just another respiratory disease. It's not certain yet, but if it is Cholera then it is contagious. There are still vitamin deficiencies to be ruled out including now vitamin A which also causes the same symptoms - but polyvisol or a generic version of it for babies would help.

I'm glad and a bit surprised she's eating, but that's good and important.

Ahhh I just wish I could teleport stuff through the computer to you, or come over with my little toolbox of goodies. In the mean time, just clean the runny stuff away from her face. Do you have VetRx there maybe? Do you have brewer's yeast for any other pets? Babyfood carrots, or carrots that you could puree? (Not canned). Even poultry vitamins/minerals?

 

[threehorses]

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Tumeric? Cayenne?

Incidentally, do you have rabbits or cats?


Yet more added: Pasteurellosis can also be treated with a GOOD dose of oxytetracycline (Duramycin) at the highest rate given on the package for 14 straight days.

Incidentally, pasteurella can cross the blood-brain barrier causing a sort of meningitis, which would be quite what we're seeing here. I also have to now wonder about encephalitis and other brain inflammation issues. In many of those, anti-inflammatory treatment, again heavy vitamin E (as I have already recommended for the obvious neurological issues), are used in treatment. Starting that vitamin E now would be a real benefit. It might not save her but it really could start to help.

 

[luvchicks8]

I have carrots. She really sounds like she has a cold like a person would. Yes I have 2 indoor cats and ceyanne. Oh I also have cephalaxin antibiotic but it was for my dog when he got hit by a car for his stiches wound.

 

[luvchicks8]

OMG I just caught my 4 year old trying to give this chicken "water" and it's vinagar he said he gave it to her before??? Can this do it?

 

[threehorses]

Oh my! Vinegar, huh? Regular white vinegar? Did you ask him how much she got? Was it by dropper or free-choice because I bet free choice she wouldn't have drank it. But by dropper she would have? Could he have handled her before when she was caged maybe? Injured her?

If she sounds like she has a cold she probably does. I don't think your indoor cats are a problem.

The reason I ask about carrots are that they're high in vitamin A (via Beta carotene) and making a puree of them and adding to her food tonight could give her a good source of some vitamin A without having the vitamins around. Also I would give her a little cayenne just a smidgeon on her food.

I don't think I'd recommend messing with the cepha yet. It's one of those drugs I dislike giving until I know it'll work and I absolutely have to because of resistance and that drug's importance.

A combination of penicillin and oxytetracycline will work for pasteurella if that's what this is. What symptoms really say "cold" to you right now? How exactly does she sound?

Be sure and clear her airways - clean her nares etc. it's possible that she could have gotten a secondary respiratory illness from aspiration either from her head not being upright, from vinegar being given via dropper (or anything but I'm betting you'd really know what to watch for when giving it, and a four year old just won't bless him), or from the neurological 'paralyzation" that is causing the neck issue in the first place.

It's possible that if something is making her neck unable to be used normally the very same could happen with her swallowing mechanisms. In fact I would say that is likely as it's common in that sort of progression - which is why it is so urgent to start to correct that paralysis. Because she's able to eat and swallow now.

If she got some fluid in her lungs from dropper fluids, then the combination of penicillin and oxytetracycline would treat both lower respiratory and upper. Can you tell where her cold sound is coming from? Upper? Or lower in her chest (you might have to use your ear on her chest and hand on her back and chest for this to see where the vibrations are from.)

p.s. Dried cranberry possibly?

 

[luvchicks8]

Yes reg white he added it to her plain water. He does not get to hold the chickens as he was born early and is really more like a 2 year old in development.
I really think upper and she makes the weezy sounds when trying to drink water after about hour it seems to stop. I go down every 2 hours to clean her nasal passage that get s caked with junk and shavings. Also her eyes that looks like the poor dear is crying.
So I am going first thing in the morning to tsc supply they said they have anti biotics to add to the water is this what I need I also think I should put her back on chick starter for awhile. On my way back walgreens has pollyvitol and vitamin a and b should I get anything else at either store maybe like a pedilyte for infants or somthing???