HELP! Olive Eggers are dying

[Jprze84]

So I'm having problems with keeping the house cool, I don't have AC. Today the house ( where I moved them from the inclosed porch) was 82°F and there are more warm days on the way. Should I build an outdoor brooder? Outside was 76°F, the house is well insulated and not enough air flow to keep the heat out.

I also started them on powder corid (amprolium) today without any other probiotics or straight water, only corid in water. Stool has been going from soft to solid and I'm seeing more red in the softer stool. The temperature In the brooder was 83°F all day and they seemed comfortable. But that temperature was through out the brooder with no cooler spot. All are eating well but I'm not seeing them drink much.

 

[ChickNanny13]

Where are you located? You may want to put your location in your profile ....

Give the Corid treatment a few days, can you take a picture of the poop with "red" in it? If they're comfortable with the temp, they're fine. If it's warm in the house where you have the brooder, turn off the heat light during the day & put it on at night if the temps drop. Did you convert your heat from heat lamp to MHP? If you're using the MHP, what setting do you have it on?

 

[aart]

So I'm having problems with keeping the house cool, I don't have AC. Today the house ( where I moved them from the inclosed porch) was 82°F and there are more warm days on the way. Should I build an outdoor brooder? Outside was 76°F, the house is well insulated and not enough air flow to keep the heat out.

Do you have a coop....other birds in there??
Power there to run heat if it cools off?

Put a fan in the window and blow some cooler air into the house.

 

[Jprze84]

Where are you located? You may want to put your location in your profile ....

Give the Corid treatment a few days, can you take a picture of the poop with "red" in it? If they're comfortable with the temp, they're fine. If it's warm in the house where you have the brooder, turn off the heat light during the day & put it on at night if the temps drop. Did you convert your heat from heat lamp to MHP? If you're using the MHP, what setting do you have it on?

Im in Michigan, the days are cool for me but the sun warms the house up really well and the heat doesn't escape very well. I set up a mhp using a heating pad last night but the heating wasnt raising the temperature at night. I went back to a heat lamp and moved the babies to the garage where it's cooler and the temperature on one end is 82 and the other end is 71. Here's this morning's stools. And the red is starting to show up more since they I started the corid.

 

[Jprze84]

Would I be able to put these breed together again? Should I keep them separate for the remainder of their life?

 

[ChickNanny13]

I would keep them separate for now, are the Maran's poop bloody?

@azygous @casportpony @dawg53 @Eggcessive @Wyorp Rock
Your advice is needed, thank you in advance

 

[azygous]

When I posted before (#19), I didn't have time to elaborate on my theory that if the Olive Eggers had coccidiosis, they may have gotten it from the Marans. The thing about coccidia is that they may be everywhere, but there are up to nine different kinds. If the Marans came from a different place than the Olive Eggers, the latter wouldn't have any resistance to the coccidia the Marans were exposed to and have likely built a resistance to. My theory is that the Olive Eggers were overwhelmed by the coccidia from being exposed to the Marans poop on the floor of the brooder where the food was mixing with the poop.

Corid does two things. It starves out the coccidia so they are unable to complete their life cycle and the chicks, at the same time, are developing a resistance to that strain of coccidia.

There is no reason why you need to segregate the Marans chicks once the Olive Eggers have started on the Corid. Actually, the Marans should be getting the Corid, too, on the off chance that they could be overwhelmed by the coccidia load. It's just a wise thing to do.

By now I hope you've found a proper feeder for the chick food so it doesn't mix with the poop and get contaminated. It may be a gross analogy, but if we wouldn't eat off the floor of a restroom in Walmart, we shouldn't expect our chickens to eat off the floor where they poop.

 

[Jprze84]

I would keep them separate for now, are the Maran's poop bloody?

@azygous @casportpony @dawg53 @Eggcessive @Wyorp Rock
Your advice is needed, thank you in advance

No, the Maran's are doing great. I did notice 1 of the marans is starting to get a little slow and constantly fluttering her chirp and her feathers are starting to look stragly just like one of the olives that wasn't doing well a couple days ago. But I don't see any loose stool or blood. And all of them are on corid. Since I've moved them to the garage and have better control over the temperature on both ends of the brooder they seem to be much happier.

 

[Jprze84]

When I posted before (#19), I didn't have time to elaborate on my theory that if the Olive Eggers had coccidiosis, they may have gotten it from the Marans. The thing about coccidia is that they may be everywhere, but there are up to nine different kinds. If the Marans came from a different place than the Olive Eggers, the latter wouldn't have any resistance to the coccidia the Marans were exposed to and have likely built a resistance to. My theory is that the Olive Eggers were overwhelmed by the coccidia from being exposed to the Marans poop on the floor of the brooder where the food was mixing with the poop.

Corid does two things. It starves out the coccidia so they are unable to complete their life cycle and the chicks, at the same time, are developing a resistance to that strain of coccidia.

There is no reason why you need to segregate the Marans chicks once the Olive Eggers have started on the Corid. Actually, the Marans should be getting the Corid, too, on the off chance that they could be overwhelmed by the coccidia load. It's just a wise thing to do.

By now I hope you've found a proper feeder for the chick food so it doesn't mix with the poop and get contaminated. It may be a gross analogy, but if we wouldn't eat off the floor of a restroom in Walmart, we shouldn't expect our chickens to eat off the floor where they poop.

I have been managing the food better and I'm changing the paper towel and bedding daily. I do see them peking at the poop when there is no food on the floor. Is there a way I can prevent them from peking the poop? (Aside from cleaning daily).

 

[Wyorp Rock]

They are going to peck at poop, while it's gross, that's what chickens do. I don't know a way of stopping them from pecking at anything, just clean up excess poop.

What dosage of Corid are you using?