Hen acting strange help! Pics added

[PoultryPedia]

Salt poisoning?
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/213200.htm

Excellent list of many things that are poisonous to chickens & symptoms of each type of poisoning:
http://www.poultryclub.org/poultry/poisonous-plants-and-toxins/

 

[86121]

Salt poisoning is a possibility due to there access to the stream, but they have fresh water that's changed daily so unless shes drinking from the stream every day and only the stream...
Either way she has only fresh water now so perhaps we can rule that out...
And ill read threw the poison chart! Thank you!

Salt poisoning?
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/213200.htm

Excellent list of many things that are poisonous to chickens & symptoms of each type of poisoning:
http://www.poultryclub.org/poultry/poisonous-plants-and-toxins/

 

[86121]

Poisoning types that are a possibility:
Phosphorus:- fire works/matches Possible due to old owners of house 6 years ago lighting off fire works. Though it would not make sense for birds that died last year, they were kept in a tractor and were not exposed to the area that they dumped there firework leftovers.
Insecticides: The pine mulch around the blueberry's? But still the last birds who died were in a tractor and never exposed?
Though mold was a possibility since there spilled feed got wet at one point.


If mold is the problem somehow? how do I cleanse there system sorta speak? And how do i find the mold to get rid of it?

 

[PoultryPedia]

Throwing out another possibility:

Amprol can cause a thiamine deficiency. I know the chickens haven't always been on medicated feed, but am noting it here because it can cause convulsions & a purple comb.
http://www.worldpoultry.net/diseases/vitamin-b1--thiamin-deficiency-d269.html
http://www.dsm.com/en_US/html/dnpna/anh_poul_vit_b1_def.htm

It sounds like you've really checked into a lot of possibilities. I really hope you're able to find a way to solve this mystery!

 

[86121]

After you carry around your favorite baby hen all day wrapped up in a towel, only to have her die in your arms that night, you look into everything...
Needless to say I like my hens and I cry myself to sleep every time, im such a baby but boy do I hope I caught her in time to figure out whats wrong!
Hmm, it sounds right symptom wise, however it says that B1 is in the feed and normaly wont affect them because of that. But in the moldy feed case it does not say how to treat?

*Edit* I have been searching for the past three hours with no luck on how to treat mold posioning, does ANYONE know what I should try?

Throwing out another possibility:

Amprol can cause a thiamine deficiency. I know the chickens haven't always been on medicated feed, but am noting it here because it can cause convulsions & a purple comb.
http://www.worldpoultry.net/diseases/vitamin-b1--thiamin-deficiency-d269.html
http://www.dsm.com/en_US/html/dnpna/anh_poul_vit_b1_def.htm

It sounds like you've really checked into a lot of possibilities. I really hope you're able to find a way to solve this mystery!

 

[PoultryPedia]

Yes--There is info on curing a fungal infection (from a mold or yeast) on my site linked in my sig.

As far as neutralizing poison, activated charcoal is supposed to be an excellent poison neutralizer.

For clearing out toxins or poisons, molasses is one thing that's supposed to stimulate a bird's system to flush out. I've heard the pectin in unsweeted applesauce is supposed to in-some-manner sort of "scrub" some bad stuff out of the digestive system & help flush it out.

I don't know much specifically about counteracting the effects of a poison.

It can be so, so hard to handle baffling conditions. I had three sweet hens slowly starve to death from an internal fungal infection before I knew much about that. The intense investment in treating them and heartbreak I experienced contributed to me deciding to take a break from having chickens for a while. My hens' struggles helped inspire me to put together my "Fungal Infections" page. I wish that when I started treating my hens I had known those things, & especially about how Oxine can help where little else really can in those cases.

Your description just made me picture the great sadness you must have been through with some of your chickens. I am so sorry for your pain. I am glad you have been there for them. Bless you! And bless them.

 

[seminolewind]

I'm sure you keep your feed clean and dry. I was thinking about any contamination prior to you buying it.

You said that you lost 7 chickens the same way. What similar circumstances did all 7 have? How old were they? How long did you have them? Are they from the same batch of eggs? Were they exposed to any chickens other than eachother or hatchery chicks? How far apart did they die? How long has this been going on?

Seems if you lost 7 already, they are all dying from the same thing?
Black black stool does point to internal bleeding.

 

[ChickChickChicky]

Yes it really does sound like mycotoxicosis (caused by mold). There are several types and unfortunately it can be hard to detect and hard to cure. Somewhere on BYC forums yesterday I saw a link to a very good article on mycotoxicosis but of course now I can no longer locate it.... grrr. If the feed got wet at some point (whether at your place or the suppliers place or anywhere along the supply line) then it's extremely likely. It's also possible they're picking up something contaminated as they free-range. Mycotoxicosis generally causes liver and/or kidney damage, which is really hard to reverse. Once the symptoms appear, the organ damage is usually pretty severe.

 

[86121]

Ok lets start with your reply:
I can easily give her a little bit of molasses and see if it helps at all. I also have regular coal! I got it as a gag gift in my stocking, Is that the same as charcoal?
yes I have been labled a chicken fanatic by my fiancee because of it, but at least they all got to be loved! T_T

Yes--There is info on curing a fungal infection (from a mold or yeast) on my site linked in my sig.

As far as neutralizing poison, activated charcoal is supposed to be an excellent poison neutralizer.

For clearing out toxins or poisons, molasses is one thing that's supposed to stimulate a bird's system to flush out. I've heard the pectin in unsweeted applesauce is supposed to in-some-manner sort of "scrub" some bad stuff out of the digestive system & help flush it out.

I don't know much specifically about counteracting the effects of a poison.

It can be so, so hard to handle baffling conditions. I had three sweet hens slowly starve to death from an internal fungal infection before I knew much about that. The intense investment in treating them and heartbreak I experienced contributed to me deciding to take a break from having chickens for a while. My hens' struggles helped inspire me to put together my "Fungal Infections" page. I wish that when I started treating my hens I had known those things, & especially about how Oxine can help where little else really can in those cases.

Your description just made me picture the great sadness you must have been through with some of your chickens. I am so sorry for your pain. I am glad you have been there for them. Bless you! And bless them.

 

[86121]

I keep my feed in the garage in mettle bins, and the place that I get the feed from does have it in a side-barn like building. Everything is elivated and kept dry so i can tell...
Should I try getting my feed from another store to rule that out? The only down side with that is a MUCH longer drive.

They all died the exact same. They started off with weak/odd behaviour, then dark green/black poop, then no apatite, then anerexia/diherhia, then weakness and lack of movement, and always ALWAYS some sort of hulusinegetic spassim that causes them to freak out and fling there head everywhere. then they cunvolse and die.
That is everything.
The first ones were my buff orphington chicks, they died at the ages of 12 weeks (two of them) 15 weeks, (one) 18 weeks,(one) and then the last of the same batch at 24 weeks. After that I lost a year old laying buff named Princess, and then an almost year old silke, and now Lady puff is sick.
I raised the babys since, well they were babys. They were not exposed to any other birds except maybe crows.
They died at the ages listed above, and the older birds died about a month apart from each other.
This has been going on since I got the hatchery chicks from the co'op last year. They were the ones that became sick first, and now I have been fighting it since then. The fisrst five to die all came from the same place, the other two came from diferent place, the same goes for lady puff.
Is there anything I can do for internal bleeding? like a food or something that might help her?

I'm sure you keep your feed clean and dry. I was thinking about any contamination prior to you buying it.

You said that you lost 7 chickens the same way. What similar circumstances did all 7 have? How old were they? How long did you have them? Are they from the same batch of eggs? Were they exposed to any chickens other than eachother or hatchery chicks? How far apart did they die? How long has this been going on?

Seems if you lost 7 already, they are all dying from the same thing?
Black black stool does point to internal bleeding.