Hey Q9!!! Calling Q9!.....

[Spookwriter]

Useless triva...

Did you know that Andrew Johnson, 17th president after Lincoln has
been the only president to be reelected to the senate after serving as
president? Odd, since he was considered a not good president.

And since someone mentioned the Nazi party....did you know that Adolf
Hilter was nomimated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939? The committee
refused it.

 

[KristyHall]

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that's cool! you have any more civil war trivia/history?

 

[Matthew3590]

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that's cool! you have any more civil war trivia/history?

Was that sarcasm? I am bad at picking it up but I am pretty sure it wasn't. I never would have thought Adolf Hitler would get nominated unless giving exilerating speeches got you voted in.

 

[KristyHall]

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that's cool! you have any more civil war trivia/history?

Was that sarcasm? I am bad at picking it up but I am pretty sure it wasn't. I never would have thought Adolf Hitler would get nominated unless giving exilerating speeches got you voted in.

no I wasn't being sarcastic at all.

We can learn a lot from Spook (including Q9). Spook is very knowledgeable about history.

 

[Matthew3590]

Ive been reading this thread closely and I just feel it is possibly the first debate to not get locked as long as I have been here.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Lincoln's war killed more Americans than any other war

How was it Lincoln's war? Seems like history says that James Buchanan was the president at the beginning. Of the "war of aggression"

Beginning at 4:30 a.m. on April 12, the Confederates bombarded the fort from artillery batteries surrounding the harbor.

Once again who fired the first shot? Was Lincoln the one that fired the first shot from fort Johnson? I think not.

Steve

The Battle of Fort Sumter (April 12–13, 1861) was the bombardment and surrender of Fort Sumter, near Charleston, South Carolina, that started the American Civil War. Following declarations of secession by seven Southern states, South Carolina demanded that the U.S. Army abandon its facilities in Charleston Harbor. On December 26, 1860, U.S. Major Robert Anderson surreptitiously moved his small command from the indefensible Fort Moultrie on Sullivan's Island to Fort Sumter, a substantial fortress controlling the entrance of Charleston Harbor. An attempt by U.S. President James Buchanan to reinforce and resupply Anderson, using the unarmed merchant ship Star of the West, failed when it was fired upon by shore batteries on January 9, 1861. South Carolina authorities then seized all Federal property in the Charleston area, except for Fort Sumter.

During the early months of 1861, the situation around Fort Sumter increasingly began to resemble a siege. In March, Brig. Gen. P.G.T. Beauregard, the first general officer of the newly formed Confederate States of America, was placed in command of Confederate forces in Charleston. Beauregard energetically directed the strengthening of batteries around Charleston harbor aimed at Fort Sumter. Conditions in the fort grew dire as the Federals rushed to complete the installation of additional guns. Anderson was short of men, food, and supplies.

The resupply of Fort Sumter became the first crisis of the administration of President Abraham Lincoln. He notified the Governor of South Carolina, Francis W. Pickens, that he was sending supply ships, which resulted in an ultimatum from the Confederate government: evacuate Fort Sumter immediately. Major Anderson refused to surrender. Beginning at 4:30 a.m. on April 12, the Confederates bombarded the fort from artillery batteries surrounding the harbor. Although the Union garrison returned fire, they were significantly outgunned and, after 34 hours, Major Anderson agreed to evacuate. There was no loss of life on either side as a direct result of this engagement, although a gun explosion during the surrender ceremonies on April 14 caused two Union deaths.

Following the battle, there was widespread support from both North and South for further military action. Lincoln's immediate call for 75,000 volunteers to suppress the rebellion resulted in an additional four states also declaring their secession and joining the Confederacy. The Civil War had begun.​

 

[Dunkopf]

Sometimes I feel like I don't know anything. Up until now I thought Lincoln was the one in charge when Ft Sumter was fired on. I'm sure they taught us some of this stuff, but I probably wasn't paying attention. Thank You Steve.

What say you Q? You have led me to believe Lincoln controlled events at Ft Sumter. Everyone is entitled to opinions, but facts should not be distorted.

 

[Spookwriter]

Learn from Spookwriter? (and Q9)

Let us all be teachers, and let us all be students. Let us learn from
each other. Make no mistake...for a young teen-something man, Q-9
knows a lot of facts about this war. We may differ in how interpret
those facts. I really want Q9 here with us...he made me think.

But let us disagree respectfully.

No, there's no need for this thread or any other thread to be closed by
moderators-- As long as we, the members respect each others opinions,
respect each others position.

But be warned...I may lie to you before it's over. May do it intentionally.
It's what I do. In writing, I try to stay believable, using the facts. Then
as I need, I'll twist reality to suit my needs.

Triva?

I wish I was in Dixie...Did you know it was written in 1959 by a dreded
Northerner...in New York City no less. As a showtune! Older than the
South itself!

Or that Federal Income Tax congress passed in 1862 to help pay for the
war? Lasted a few years.

A total of seven future U.S. presidents fought in the civil war.

Andrew Johnson was thought a fool by buying Alaska during his term.
(Stewarts Folly) until gold was discovered in Alaska.

Did we mention gold? I think gold was also discovered in the Montana
area during the civil war years, also helping to pay for the war.

The civil war was the first modern war in ways...it had submarines, ariel
ballons, gattling guns.

And of all the soldiers lost...more were lost to sickness that battle?

An amazing time in history. Come on Q9, help me out.

 

[Dunkopf]

Probably had advances in medicine too. Particularly amputations. Did they get anywhere with infection control.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

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Greg,

You won't get always get the trueth from one sided minds.

Q9 is great for quoting bits and parts but never the "other side" . You said it perfectly about him living in a vacume and that is truely sad. He is a smart person and with a some life experience maybe a great person.

Steve