Hillside Poultry Farm is not telling the truth

[Mojo Chick'n]

Kaya -

I believe in a lot of things that you espouse (buying local, knowing what goes on your plate and where it comes from, etc...) - but

What bothered me the most is that you stated that you didn't care about that, though - and that led me to believe that you were in this to stop him from underselling you - I stated so quite clearly, even quoting the passage, and basically got no answer, unless the "thick headed" comment was aimed at me, (and yes, I can be thick headed at times, and I am not ashamed to say so.)

When you became snarky to Cetawin, I decided to give tit for tat. I figured you had opened the floor (so to speak) for receiving what you had dished out.

Incidently - your argument to Cetawin was "it is not about who's eggs are better". Yet this (quality of food source) is your argument NOW - so which is it?

Are you in fact worried that the quality of food is in serious danger, are you worried that people need to be informed, or are you simply looking for a good excuse to have started this thread? (after stating --
"I could give a crap about the individual who doesnt know they are not getting farm fresh eggs for 1.25,")

Pardon me, but I am confused. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the reason you are so upset about this man selling eggs.

thank you in advance -
meri

 

[Mojo Chick'n]

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Exactly--a perfectly appropriate analogy. Now maybe some of the people who keep asking, "Why do you care?" will get it. Then again...

I understand what Wifezilla is saying - but then, Kaya stated that he is not cutting into her business, so I am assuming that he is not her competition. He sells mass quanitities to larger places to re-sell, she sells a few dozen a week out of her home. She has a waiting list, this tells me he is not hurting her own business.

sorry if I seem to be "thick headed" I'm just still waiting for a consistant answer from Kaya.

 

[Cetawin]

kaya's farm :

ITS NOT ABOUT WHO'S EGGS ARE BETTER

I understand that...I was referring to my bozo here in town that does the same thing.

If it is not affecting your business or your family...why bother? You can spend your life chasing frauds all you want there are plenty of them. I would prefer to spend that time with my chickens and my family.​

 

[Cetawin]

kaya's farm :

and some of the stuff i have been reading for school is going to send me over the deep end. Our food system is so scary

Yes it is....which is why many of choose to avoid it as much as possible by growing and raising our own food. Some of us were raised in conditions of "you raise it and kill it to eat or you do not eat". Thankfully I was one of those. I have never needed not do I need our "food system" to survive.

The people in the Country are waking up to it just as you are but you are wasting your time and potentially harming your own business and others' in the area if you do not get your info up front on this guy, have your facts and go through proper channels.

Therefore I will repeat myself by saying... follow your local laws and do what you if this guy upsets you so.

Good luck in whatever it is you are trying to do. If you really want to see shock and awe ... walk into the kitchen of a Olive Garden Restaurant unannounced sometime or a Campbell's Soup factory. But that is another thread in itself. LOL​

 

[CovenantCreek]

Mojo Chick'n :

I understand what Wifezilla is saying - but then, Kaya stated that he is not cutting into her business, so I am assuming that he is not her competition. He sells mass quanitities to larger places to re-sell, she sells a few dozen a week out of her home. She has a waiting list, this tells me he is not hurting her own business.

sorry if I seem to be "thick headed" I'm just still waiting for a consistant answer from Kaya.

Kaya is bothered by the fact that many people/organizations are buying this guy's eggs thinking they're getting truly local eggs -- and reselling them as truly local eggs, furthering the deception. Prior to your recent posts, she mentioned that a local CSA (community supported agriculture) was buying eggs from him to sell to their customers. The whole purpose of buying from a CSA is to support local farms, not produce distributors. When they learned the truth (from him) they had to change their source for eggs because he wasn't a local farmer and his business didn't line up with their philosophy. Others may feel the same, others may not, but they can't make an informed choice if no one bothers to inform them.

I don't think Kaya ever meant to say that she doesn't give a darn about some of the unrelated issues that have been brought up in this thread, but most of them have been off topic with relation to her reason for the original post -- truth in marketing. From what she has said in response to other posts, she certainly does care. However discussing them doesn't help her decide what, if anything, should be done about the misleading practices being employed by a "major" seller in her area. For most of us, it would be like Walmart saying their eggs are local because we didn't have to leave town to get them.​

 

[kaya's farm]

Mojo Chick'n :

Kaya -

I believe in a lot of things that you espouse (buying local, knowing what goes on your plate and where it comes from, etc...) - but

What bothered me the most is that you stated that you didn't care about that, though - and that led me to believe that you were in this to stop him from underselling you - I stated so quite clearly, even quoting the passage, and basically got no answer, unless the "thick headed" comment was aimed at me, (and yes, I can be thick headed at times, and I am not ashamed to say so.)

When you became snarky to Cetawin, I decided to give tit for tat. I figured you had opened the floor (so to speak) for receiving what you had dished out.

Incidently - your argument to Cetawin was "it is not about who's eggs are better". Yet this (quality of food source) is your argument NOW - so which is it?

Are you in fact worried that the quality of food is in serious danger, are you worried that people need to be informed, or are you simply looking for a good excuse to have started this thread? (after stating --
"I could give a crap about the individual who doesnt know they are not getting farm fresh eggs for 1.25,")

Pardon me, but I am confused. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the reason you are so upset about this man selling eggs.

thank you in advance -
meri

I could give a crap about the individual who doesnt know they are not getting farm fresh eggs for 1.25,")



sorry I truly dont remember posting that myself, I was probably getting worked up.......but still dont think I posted that? Thats what iv said i wanted the whole time honesty

What ticked me off most recently was the costomer who thought they had the same quality farm fresh eggs for 1.25. Like I tell my own gram who buys eggs at Walmart cause they are cheep, the long term cost of cheep will be very high
Then she always wants my eggs cause the 1.00 walmart eggs are "not the same" as she says.

People should be allowed to buy any eggs they product they want if the packaging is not tricking you into thinking its something else.​

 

[kaya's farm]

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I understand that...I was referring to my bozo here in town that does the same thing.

If it is not affecting your business or your family...why bother? You can spend your life chasing frauds all you want there are plenty of them. I would prefer to spend that time with my chickens and my family.

I dont disagree with you cet I just feel more people should care and thats why things are so messed up. I feel it is important for my children to see me fight for what I beleive and if others support what another took the time to start, change can happen.
Billions of govenment dollars are spent on FDA and such but they make way more from the corperations that pay them off to back off.

 

[kaya's farm]

well I also want to thank those who both support my choice and also those who dont. I like to question my own opinions with good arguments. Although I dont think having a who cares attitude will ever change things. I am lucky to be surrounded by people who have some of the same values, especialy when it comes to food and the American way to consume everything in site.

I have to go work on this paper and get ready for an Easter Egg hunt with 20 kids on Saturday, just wanted to stop in and let you know your help was great and Im sorry if I made others angry or got angry myself

 

[elliemay0305]

i see there has been alot of replys on this and i didnt get to read them all but maybe you should talk to the man selling them. get it off your chest. tell him you think he is misleading people. as for someone comparing you to him let them know how he gets his eggs. tell them you have to sells your for more because yours come from you farm and not a factory. but as for trying to shut him down i wouldnt do that. people should have a choice but right now eggs for 1.25 is good for people! the price of things is out of this world so if someone can save alittle money by buying his and they dont care where they come from let them. this may be his way of trying to make a little money to!

just my thoughts

 

[HennysMom]

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But - in that bolded statement and the OP's admission - doesnt that absolve the guy immediately right there? If one ASKS if they are local and he already admitted "no" - then what is the issue?

I'm not understanding - she knew they werent local and he's not passing them off as local. The carton might be marked as his address but it is NOT marked "Farm Fresh Eggs FROM..."

therein lies the difference.

I still say he's not doing anything wrong - if he's asked (and he has been, many times over, according to the OP) where his eggs come from - he clearly says they are NOT local. Did he ever pass them off as local eggs or is the assumtion there because his cartons are marked with his address? There is a difference, sorry - one is the person buying the eggs is ASSUMING these eggs are local without asking because this mans business is marked on the carton, but nowhere does it say FARM FRESH EGGS FROM HILLSIDE POULTRY FARMS. The carton merely states his BUSINESS name and address, and that is legal. He wants his customers to know where he is - its nothing more than a business card of sorts really. The other is, if someone asked this man (and apparently he is forthright when asked) "are these local eggs?" he readily admits they are not. Is he stating up front either way? I dont know.. but from the sounds of it, he never stated they were local eggs; the consumers were assuming they were. Now who's the faulty one?

The OP should just sell their own eggs and product and not worry about everyone else; I think the real issue is this OP - "...Im not sure why i am getting so worked up over this but i think its because of the books Iv been reading for the semester and the movies, ect."

There is the answer... but thats just my opinion, which doesnt mean much.