Homesteaders

[RichnSteph]

Rancherhicks- Unfortunately we don't own the land but I wish we did. Our family owned it years ago but was smart enough to retain the mineral rights when it was sold. I'd love some oil money so I could retire.........

 

[rancher hicks]

Our country was selling compost and rain barrels a while back, so I figure we're good.

I did not know that there were places that had such laws. However IMO they're ridiculous.

Folks ought to be able to save water to raise their crops.

Too California should be implementing underground cisterns to collect water. I've seen on This Old House the set up of a "bladder" under a deck to collect rainwater.

Good luck with your raised beds. You gotta post pictures.

 

[rancher hicks]

Rancherhicks- Unfortunately we don't own the land but I wish we did. Our family owned it years ago but was smart enough to retain the mineral rights when it was sold. I'd love some oil money so I could retire.........

Well now you will retire sooner or later.

 

[alldembirds]

@rancher hicks A lot of western states even claim they own all rain that falls over the state and will give you jail time for stealing from the state, colorado only legalized rain collecting a couple years ago, and I just read about an Oregon man who went to jail for collecting rain water. people are crazy,

 

[wyoDreamer]

Water rights is an old, old issue; especially in areas where water is scarce. The less water that is available, the more valuable it becomes. I think it goes to a ridiculous extent sometime, but I can somewhat understand it.

Out west, if someone dammed up a drainage swale and made a pond for themselves, then the rancher downstream who had a pond that was filled by that swale would no longer get any water and his pond would go dry. If the downstream rancher was there first and claimed the water rights, then the second guy was "stealing" the ranchers water.

They are simply extending that concept to the idea that a homeowner who has rain barrels is stopping that water from flowing down the swale to the guy who has the "rights" to it. One landowner with one barrel is not too much influence, but 1000 landowners with rain barrels makes an impact.

 

[wyoDreamer]

After living in Wyoming for 7 years, I kinda got a taste of what they are facing.
Wyoming gets 12 inches of rain for the entire year.
Missouri gets around 40 inches.
Until you try to live with only 12 inches, its really hard to understand their point of view.

The western ranchers really depend on getting that runoff that comes down the drainage swales.

 

[rancher hicks]

Well I reckon the good Lord giveth and Uncle Sam taketh away. We kinda forget why the early settlers left England. Where will we go? When will we revolt so many taxes and laws? I'm not advocating revolution but I know men.

 

[alldembirds]

@rancher hicks I talk to my wife all the time about how so many americans are descendants of people that didn't like the rules so they went somewhere without the rules, Its no wonder so many of us act like heathens and have authority issues, it's in our blood

 

[rancher hicks]

@rancher hicks I talk to my wife all the time about how so many americans are descendants of people that didn't like the rules so they went somewhere without the rules, Its no wonder so many of us act like heathens and have authority issues, it's in our blood

I hope you don't think I have authority issues, but I do have issues with who's in charge sometimes. I guess my point was our ancestors came to get away from taxes and now we've implemented more and more of them.

We need rules of course, just not so many and so much control. God makes it rain and I just don't figure man should take control over the very rain that God sends. I won't go into heathens.
One thing I do forget a lot is to pray for those in authority.

1Ti 2:1

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I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

1Ti 2:2

For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

 

[RichnSteph]

@rancher hicks I talk to my wife all the time about how so many americans are descendants of people that didn't like the rules so they went somewhere without the rules, Its no wonder so many of us act like heathens and have authority issues, it's in our blood

Indeed.