Horses slaughtered in FL?
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Or they would hunt their own food and raise their own food. I looked into commercial meat about 7 yrs. ago and I have not bought any meat from a store in over 7 years now. I will only eat what we raise or my DH kills. ONLY...I was disgusted at my findings!
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Or they would hunt their own food and raise their own food. I looked into commercial meat about 7 yrs. ago and I have not bought any meat from a store in over 7 years now. I will only eat what we raise or my DH kills. ONLY...I was disgusted at my findings!
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Or they would hunt their own food and raise their own food. I looked into commercial meat about 7 yrs. ago and I have not bought any meat from a store in over 7 years now. I will only eat what we raise or my DH kills. ONLY...I was disgusted at my findings!
Or that. I agree I would rather raise my own birds for food but I would never be able to do the deed of killing them. Dad would definatly have to do that. I would never be able to raise anything bigger than a chicken though and never a duck I had a pet duck for 9 years and that would just be horrible to eat one, and I wouldn't be able to get attached to them at all.
Or they would hunt their own food and raise their own food. I looked into commercial meat about 7 yrs. ago and I have not bought any meat from a store in over 7 years now. I will only eat what we raise or my DH kills. ONLY...I was disgusted at my findings!
Or that. I agree I would rather raise my own birds for food but I would never be able to do the deed of killing them. Dad would definatly have to do that. I would never be able to raise anything bigger than a chicken though and never a duck I had a pet duck for 9 years and that would just be horrible to eat one, and I wouldn't be able to get attached to them at all.
Back to the original post, I don't understand why they have to steal! I hate thieves!!
There are unwanted horses on every corner now days. I hate the fact that the horse they stole was a nice, loved, useful pet. It just burns me up!
ETA typos!
There are unwanted horses on every corner now days. I hate the fact that the horse they stole was a nice, loved, useful pet. It just burns me up!
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Definatly....horses are hard to even give away these days. The market for them just isn't what it used to be. You can get an excellent horse for next to nothing now a days. And the auctions....good grief....Last month mares in foal with a foal at their side were selling for less than $50.00. And there is NO shortage of them either.
Definatly....horses are hard to even give away these days. The market for them just isn't what it used to be. You can get an excellent horse for next to nothing now a days. And the auctions....good grief....Last month mares in foal with a foal at their side were selling for less than $50.00. And there is NO shortage of them either.
Since horse slaughter as an industry is part of this discussion, below is a version of a letter I wrote that may contribute some ideas:
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Various organizations asserting support of humane treatment of animals are waging a battle opposing slaughter of horses for human consumption. Their efforts employ distorted emotionality and presenting selective information and some extreme cases. The organizations have not shared adequate information for a well-rounded perspective on the involved issues. Please dont let such attempts hide the facts involved.
I own horses and am a lifelong horse lover. I have held a number of positions teaching horse care and riding and worked at various stables. I included horse-related courses in my college studies and currently interact with many horse-owning and horse-loving people. I strongly SUPPORT appropriate, humane slaughter of horses.
A dismaying surplus of horses has developed since horse slaughter was stopped in the U.S. in 2007.
As a result, prices are extremely low in the flooded horse market. Many owners are giving away or abandoning horses because of the combination of the market surplus and current high maintenance costs. My former husband and I were given five free horses in the last year.
Many times horse buyers find out after making a purchase that the horse they bought is unsuitable for their needs. What are they to do with a dangerous or unsound horse? Or even one that just needs more training? Owners are hard-pressed to pay $300-$500 minimum for training when they will get next to nothing when they sell the horse. It is more economical for the owner to just get a different horse. Prices in the horse market are so low at this time that the buyer can potentially just seek out one of the MANY already trained and often physically superior horses readily available at very low prices. (For example, two broke registered Paints sold at an auction near me for $10 each, recently.) But then the unsuitable horse is added back into the circulation of the horse market, where it is likely to be a disappointment and wasted expense for another buyer.
If slaughter continues to be banned, where are the thousands of U.S. horses that are unsound, elderly or dangerous to go?
Using for food the meat from horses that appropriately need to be put down is a resource-conscious and life-valuing choice. If meat from unplaceable horses (Historically, an estimated 90,000 U.S. horses per year have gone to slaughter) is buried or incinerated rather than used, the disposal will contribute to environmental pollution, rather than resource conservation. Many more resources will have to be employed and many other animals killed (in the U.S. or abroad) to produce a comparable amount of meat for the food supply.
For many horse trainers, the effect on their livelihood can be significant. Unless they work in high-level disciplines, trainers are likely to struggle to even recoup expenses, much less make a profit, when they train horses for sale. Training knowledge and skills require considerable investments in time, money and practice. With decreased opportunity for compensation, fewer people may be available to provide effective training for pleasure horses.
The cost of hay and other components of horse-keeping have risen significantly with shifts in fuel prices other economic factors. The drop in the market value of horses has created a staggering deterrent to owners providing adequate care. Many horses have paid the price in underfeeding, painfully overgrown hooves, neglected medical conditions, and even abandonment. This is not humane.
Since horse slaughter was outlawed in the U.S., horses to be slaughtered have had to be exported. The stresses in transportation are much greater because of the longer travel time and greater weather variances. Sometimes foreign laws regarding humane transport and euthanization are less protective of horses welfare, as well. However, export for foreign slaughter should not be completely stopped if it is the only available slaughter outlet, because suffering would be even more widespread if all slaughter were to be halted. And for a great number of horses, the suffering would extend interminably. However, if we must use export channels, we need to exert whatever influence and implement whatever measures we still can to pressure export buyers to maintain high humane standards in foreign processing facilities.
The focus of humane efforts needs to be advocating measures to reliably ensure humane transport, handling and euthanization of horses that are being slaughtered. Such protections need to take into account horses nature, as well as their physical needs. Advances can be made, and in this we should not consent to decent considerations being ignored for the purpose of profit. I strongly believe that the financial costs of implementing more appropriate practices would be far better absorbed by U.S. horse sellers and meat processors than the crises being created currently.
Please, lets work together to implement legal measures that integrate these factors into our stewardship of horses.
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Various organizations asserting support of humane treatment of animals are waging a battle opposing slaughter of horses for human consumption. Their efforts employ distorted emotionality and presenting selective information and some extreme cases. The organizations have not shared adequate information for a well-rounded perspective on the involved issues. Please dont let such attempts hide the facts involved.
I own horses and am a lifelong horse lover. I have held a number of positions teaching horse care and riding and worked at various stables. I included horse-related courses in my college studies and currently interact with many horse-owning and horse-loving people. I strongly SUPPORT appropriate, humane slaughter of horses.
A dismaying surplus of horses has developed since horse slaughter was stopped in the U.S. in 2007.
As a result, prices are extremely low in the flooded horse market. Many owners are giving away or abandoning horses because of the combination of the market surplus and current high maintenance costs. My former husband and I were given five free horses in the last year.
Many times horse buyers find out after making a purchase that the horse they bought is unsuitable for their needs. What are they to do with a dangerous or unsound horse? Or even one that just needs more training? Owners are hard-pressed to pay $300-$500 minimum for training when they will get next to nothing when they sell the horse. It is more economical for the owner to just get a different horse. Prices in the horse market are so low at this time that the buyer can potentially just seek out one of the MANY already trained and often physically superior horses readily available at very low prices. (For example, two broke registered Paints sold at an auction near me for $10 each, recently.) But then the unsuitable horse is added back into the circulation of the horse market, where it is likely to be a disappointment and wasted expense for another buyer.
If slaughter continues to be banned, where are the thousands of U.S. horses that are unsound, elderly or dangerous to go?
Using for food the meat from horses that appropriately need to be put down is a resource-conscious and life-valuing choice. If meat from unplaceable horses (Historically, an estimated 90,000 U.S. horses per year have gone to slaughter) is buried or incinerated rather than used, the disposal will contribute to environmental pollution, rather than resource conservation. Many more resources will have to be employed and many other animals killed (in the U.S. or abroad) to produce a comparable amount of meat for the food supply.
For many horse trainers, the effect on their livelihood can be significant. Unless they work in high-level disciplines, trainers are likely to struggle to even recoup expenses, much less make a profit, when they train horses for sale. Training knowledge and skills require considerable investments in time, money and practice. With decreased opportunity for compensation, fewer people may be available to provide effective training for pleasure horses.
The cost of hay and other components of horse-keeping have risen significantly with shifts in fuel prices other economic factors. The drop in the market value of horses has created a staggering deterrent to owners providing adequate care. Many horses have paid the price in underfeeding, painfully overgrown hooves, neglected medical conditions, and even abandonment. This is not humane.
Since horse slaughter was outlawed in the U.S., horses to be slaughtered have had to be exported. The stresses in transportation are much greater because of the longer travel time and greater weather variances. Sometimes foreign laws regarding humane transport and euthanization are less protective of horses welfare, as well. However, export for foreign slaughter should not be completely stopped if it is the only available slaughter outlet, because suffering would be even more widespread if all slaughter were to be halted. And for a great number of horses, the suffering would extend interminably. However, if we must use export channels, we need to exert whatever influence and implement whatever measures we still can to pressure export buyers to maintain high humane standards in foreign processing facilities.
The focus of humane efforts needs to be advocating measures to reliably ensure humane transport, handling and euthanization of horses that are being slaughtered. Such protections need to take into account horses nature, as well as their physical needs. Advances can be made, and in this we should not consent to decent considerations being ignored for the purpose of profit. I strongly believe that the financial costs of implementing more appropriate practices would be far better absorbed by U.S. horse sellers and meat processors than the crises being created currently.
Please, lets work together to implement legal measures that integrate these factors into our stewardship of horses.
I only eat what the Bible says you can eat.
Every beast that hath a hoof, but divideth it not, nor cheweth the cud, shall be unclean: and he that toucheth it, shall be defiled.
Not trying to start anything, everyone has their own opinions, and some think it is okay to eat a horse, but I do not feel it is okay. A horse does not have a split hoof, nor does it chew the cud.
Every beast that hath a hoof, but divideth it not, nor cheweth the cud, shall be unclean: and he that toucheth it, shall be defiled.
Not trying to start anything, everyone has their own opinions, and some think it is okay to eat a horse, but I do not feel it is okay. A horse does not have a split hoof, nor does it chew the cud.
And those good family horses aren't easy to find either. What a waste!
That poor family.
Oh my, the auctions are depressing aren't they?
Maybe this will be a sad lesson on why not to over breed horses!
Oh my, the auctions are depressing aren't they?
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Thanks for sharing! I agree with you..but also would love to see folks STOP all of the breeding! I think they will now that they have figured out that horses are not disposable anymore. Time for them to get responsible!!
Again, I'm not against humanly slaugtering horses.
Thanks for sharing! I agree with you..but also would love to see folks STOP all of the breeding! I think they will now that they have figured out that horses are not disposable anymore. Time for them to get responsible!!
Again, I'm not against humanly slaugtering horses.
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Whats a TB farm? The disease TB? Hijack..sorry..
Thoroughbred.
Ooh! Duh!
Whats a TB farm? The disease TB? Hijack..sorry..
Thoroughbred.
Ooh! Duh!
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