How to dispose of annoying dogs

[bobbi-j]

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I agree...but if you live in a residential area and need to do these dogs on the quiet, it doesn't leave many options, does it? Of course, you could just lure them into the yard and slam them over the head with a sledge hammer....that's quick.

It'd be quicker and less painful than poisoning...

 

[Hound]

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Why don't you try it and let us know how it feels? I can talk from personal experience, a dog that has got into rat bait suffers considerably. Humans (one would hope) have the capacity to be humane. A long drawn out death is far from that.

The OP needs to maintain the moral high ground. Inflicting suffering on an animal will land her in front of a judge far sooner than the dogs' owner for letting them roam.

 

[Beekissed]

Yep....if you don't get bitten first and if you get a good hit the first time. Ever kill an animal with a sledge hammer before? Not as easy as it sounds.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

This is NOT legal.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/10711/MD/US/

It's mind-blowing how little people try to understand dogs. Growling is not aggression. Growling is what dogs do in order to AVOID aggression. A dog growling when someone is yelling and running at it is saying "Please stop; that worries me a great deal and I do not want to bite you." If I killed dogs for growling I'd have to put down every single rescue that comes into this house. Dogs who are scared of people growl and try to get away, which is exactly what the huskies in the original post did.

A year ago one of these dogs did not kill a chicken. That's the only actual crime I've heard so far. Everything else is just "I hate these freaking dogs and want to kill them." The dogs came to the gate, then when yelled at they ran off and were never seen again.

You have the right to shoot a dog for actively threatening livestock. You do not have the right to put poison on your property line or try to kill dogs who are not doing anything wrong except being annoying. You can test that, of course, if you want a huge civil suit or, depending on the state, a criminal violation, but if the dogs were not even close to your animals you do not have much defense.

Beekissed, how would you feel if your puppies got out of their pen and ran over to a neighbor and you ran over to grab them and you found him feeding them rat poison as he petted their heads? And when you objected, he said "They jumped up on me and when I tried to tackle that one she growled!" Wouldn't you say "Jumping up is what puppies do, and you obviously scared her to death"? But according to your answer here, poisoning them deliberately in plain sight of their owner is not only justified but merciful. Really?

JustOneBite causes the brain and spinal cord to swell until the dog dies. It's excruciating and an absolutely horrible way to die.

 

[highcountrychickens]

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Be careful of this sort of advice... even tongue-in-cheek

killing dogs with poison is illegal and punishable on all sorts of levels in most states -
There are so many other ways to deal with this ...even up to shooting a dog on your property that is threatening livestock... that it would be a shame to go down an illegal road unnecessarily.

 

[Beekissed]

Why don't you try it and let us know how it feels?

Sure can. From observation of internal bleeding, one becomes restless and fidgety. Slowly one becomes more lethargic and less responsive. May be thirsty during this process. No observations have recorded pain as one of the primary symptoms of internal bleeding in humans.

It amazes me the humans who will make a comment like yours and still consider yourself "humane". You obviously would rather see a human experience poisoning than a dog. Nice.

By a show of hands, who here has had to dispatch a nuisance animal from their property?​

 

[Beekissed]

Beekissed, how would you feel if your puppies got out of their pen and ran over to a neighbor and you ran over to grab them and you found him feeding them rat poison as he petted their heads? And when you objected, he said "They jumped up on me and when I tried to tackle that one she growled!" Wouldn't you say "Jumping up is what puppies do, and you obviously scared her to death"? But according to your answer here, poisoning them deliberately in plain sight of their owner is not only justified but merciful. Really?

That is the chance one takes with pet ownership out here in the country. Most farmers assume your dog is on their property to cause mischief and will shoot it merely for being in the fields near the cattle. If they chose poison, that is their perogative.

I'd be sad. But I would understand completely that I didn't contain my dogs properly and a person felt they were a threat to them. People come first in my book...puppies come second.

Actually, I have no near neighbors...but if I did, this would still be my reply. If he were suffering from the poison, I would put a bullet in his skull. On MY property one can do this. In a surburban area, one's hands are tied by the need for secrecy in removal of a dangerous animal that the authorities will not dispatch.

By the way:

There are two classes of anti-coagulant type rodent poisons, the courmarins and the indandiones. Courmarins include some very common rodent poisons such as warfarin, bromadiolone~the active ingredient in JustOneBite, and courmafuryl. Indandiones include the rodent poisons diphacionone and chlorophacinone.[viii]

Both of these classes of toxic materials work by blocking vitamin K-dependent synthesis of the blood clotting substance prothrombin, which predisposes the animal to widespread internal bleeding. Animals suffering from exposure to anti-coagulant rodenticides suffer from the following list of immediate toxic effects: nosebleeds, bleeding gums, blood in urine and feces; bruises due to ruptured blood vessels; and skin damage.[ix]

Only causes spinal swelling in long term exposure. Typically an animal would not live long enough to become exposed for long term.

Now, folks...don't get yer panties in a twist. I've never poisoned a dog in my life....but I would if there were no other way to dispose of it and it were dangerous to me and my family/livestock. The only nuisance dogs that I have had to dispatch were done quite humanely with a hot lead injection.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

It does not work that fast in dogs. Bromethalin poisoning is a well-known illness to any vet, and it's not fast and it's not pretty.

http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/toxicity/c_multi_bromethalin_rodenticide_toxicity

I know the stories of many dogs who have gotten into rat poison, and I lost one of our own cats to it. NONE of them have just peacefully died. It's excruciating.

 

[Beekissed]

One of my cats got into it once and just got weak and died. Slept away. Of course, we didn't know he had eaten either rat poison or eaten a poisoned mouse until we saw blood from his rectum. By then the vet said it was too late to give Vit. K. It was all very peaceful and quiet....he just got listless and fell asleep.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

OK - my cat was extremely ill, with major organ damage, seizures, and considerable pain. We tried to save him for a week before we finally let him go. The dogs I know who have gotten into it have been extremely ill and in obvious distress and pain. The VETS say the animals are very distressed and in pain. I am sorry for your cat, if that's indeed what happened to him (was he diagnosed?), but that's not the way bromethalin usually works in bigger mammals.

There is also, as has been brought up, the issue of doing what is right, not what is convenient or in some way satisfying. There's a cost here that has nothing to do with money.