I also need help on the breed of this horse please

[misfitfarm]

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Look....I'm not saying he is going to. There's no telling what he's going to do. But a stallion is a stallion and he is going to do what nature tells him to do that you allow him to do.

It is possible to have a well-mannered stallion that is very respectful of people...but it takes a knowledgeable horse person. I have had horses for 30+ years, and owned one stallion. He was gelded a month after I got him...because (with me) he was a better gelding than stallion. If you're not going to breed - you don't need a stallion. And VERY FEW stallions are accomplished enough (credentials) and quality enough to keep "the boys" if you know what I mean....

Ok! I do understand and I am not a horse person in fact he is my first horse. I think it would be best to geld him and no absolutely not going to breed him.

 

[Kelly G]

A colleague of mine suggested I also point out the legal implications of owning a stallion - and containing it! If it gets out and breeds something - not everyone will think of a "free breeding" as gift.

Stallions need stallion fencing. There are people here who will tell you differently, but listen to me now or believe me later.

You may not live in a high-density horse area, but a stallion can detect a mare in heat from an alarming distance!

Look, I have a lot of passion....and this horse may have hit the jackpot (along with you!) if you play your cards right. He's actually a really cute little bugger!

 

[misfitfarm]

I live in very rural Iowa. I swear that there are more cows and horses than people around here. There are a couple of mares maybe a mile up the road. I will geld him, I rescue dogs for Iowa Weimaraner Rescue so I do understand irresponsible pet ownership. I have to deal with it on an everyday basis and I most def don't want to be irresponsible when it comes to "abell". I just wanted actual and factual advise and truly appreciate all of the time everyone has put in to helping me and informing me.

 

[Kelly G]

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PM me anytime....I don't have all the answers, but I promise I will do my best to give you good, sound advice. Promise. He really is a cute little horse & could have a bright, bright future with you - and GREAT job gathering info...and taking some advice.

Good luck with him!

 

[Redcatcher]

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It depends on the stallion. They are all individuals. Mine won't leave my property and there are mares nearby. He pushed the pasture gate open once and he was missing for an afternoon. I wasn't particularly alarmed. I finally found him standing in his stall with the door wide open. He was starting back at me as if to say "What are YOU looking at?" But don't try this at home folks.

 

[misfitfarm]

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It depends on the stallion. They are all individuals. Mine won't leave my property and there are mares nearby. He pushed the pasture gate open once and he was missing for an afternoon. I wasn't particularly alarmed. I finally found him standing in his stall with the door wide open. He was starting back at me as if to say "What are YOU looking at?" But don't try this at home folks.

 

[andalusn]

The only difference between a nice stallion and a fantastic gelding is the $150 vet fee.

 

[welsummerchicks]

No one should have a stallion as their first horse. No matter how good of a stallion it is and no matter how good the owner is. It's just not appropriate.

Having a stallion is a pain. For many reasons.

Sure, some stallions are not as much of a pain. Either by some collosal error of nature, or because the owner is a very, very experienced horse person and knows exactly how to make them not be a pain.

First of all, they want to have se* with other people's horses.

Sometimes, they don't realize they want to do that til they get to be 3 or 4, but usually, when they do realize they want to do that, they are trying really hard to make up for all the lost time they've had in their lives when they weren't wanting to do that.

And once they've 'accidentally' gotten to do that, their biggest goal in life is to do that again.

They can pace the fence line and walk themselves to skin and bones. They can get very, very nervous in the spring and fall.

And it's not always a matter of your stallion jumping out, though it very often is. Especially when you least want them to, like at a horse show. That fence you have? It won't hold a stallion who really wants to get out, and he'll probably get hurt in the process, too.

There are times when the neighbor's mares will come into YOUR pasture, actually.

And guess who is liable for the costs of aborting the foal or caring for them?

OFten, it is the stallion owner.

Plus your neighbors get angry about it.

And it isn't just the whole se* with other people's horses thing.

A good many people think all stallions are fire breathing dragons, and as long as you have one, that neighbor who thinks that will complain about that horse at every single turn. It's going to eat her child if the child, accidentally on purpose, wanders into the pasture, etc.

It's just not how anyone should get started with horses.

I'm not sure if you're planning on having the one pony by himself til you find a home for him, or if you plan to keep him, but either way, a stallion is far, far less likely to tolerate being alone with out other horse company.

I'm not too sure why these two jokers keep putting these horses together, but you can see that when horses get excited people or other horses can get hurt:

Sometimes it starts as playing and ends up with one getting hurt - hopefully just hunks of skin and hair -

Most people who have always been around quiet horses, or haven't seen them hurt each other, think all of this is 'so cute'. Sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't.

Listen to this narration, especially where ti says two stallions will fight to the death.

But this kind of thing, this is what happens.

Sure, not every time a horse gets loose or one gets in his pasture with him, but it only takes once.

 

[Peaches Lee]

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This is my guess too.

I had a friend that showed a Haflinger stallion in dressage, they did great and had a lot of fun.

 

[Redcatcher]

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I agree that stallions aren't for beginners unless they can work with them under the supervision of a good trainer.

However, in defense of stallions. They are a "pain" because the vast majority aren't allowed to be horses. They are isolated and often kept in stalls around the clock where they don't get any turnout at all. It's because people are told, and they believe, that they can't be turned out with other horses. They do well in herd arrangements, just as they do in the wild. VERY few feral or wild stallions get the privilege to mate. They form bachelor herds. Believe me, these bachelors don't even think about mating. The same goes for domestic stallions that have been properly socialized from the beginning. They are quite easily put in their places by other herd members. It doesn't even have to be a herd. I've watched small groups of feral Marsh Tackies interact with each other on my property on Hilton Head. I've seen the stallions playfight with one other but I've never seen them injure each other.

In my own experiences, stallions/colts are at their worst between a year and two years old. This is when they are the most hormonal and/or combatant. They will want to playfight with other horses and sometimes their handlers. This is at the age where they are usually pulled from their herd and kept in isolation for the rest of their lives. Then you see might see the crazy fence walking behavior. Horses are social animals, especially stallions. People are too quick to blame anyone unwanted behaviors on their need to mate. I think there are only 3-4 people on the face of the earth that know my horse is a stallion. Even the vet and farrier don't have a clue since he's usually wearing a winter blanket in the fall and winter and fly sheets in the spring and summer. Yet every visit I get a receipt and sure enough the "G" is circled for gelding. I've even taken him for walks the street to visit the horses there. I wish every horse was as much of a "pain" as he is!

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