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Im sure you know the chicks need each other for heat during shipping if there is no outside source . Its been discovered by experience that 25 is a safe minimum number . If I only want to pay for 8 hatchery quality chicks plus a penalty for a small order , I certainly do not expect to have any choice on the sex or breed of the chicks they added for heat . It would be my choice of snippiing the extra's heads off , selling them , giving them away , or feeding them out to eat . If I want to decide the breed and sex of the entire box , I will pay for 25 chicks and order the amount of the breed I want plus extra , and/or pick and pay for another breed and sex that I can sell either before or after they arrive . I guess some dealers are now shipping small orders with an added heat pack ; cost per chick is higher but the buyer does not have the decision making process of dealing with the extras . By the way , did you figure what the cost of those packing peanuts are ?