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Very well put @orrpeople.

I do the best I can by my birds. They get good high quality feed, scratch, boss, fresh fruit, veggies, left overs, how oatmeal laced with cinnamon and all the bugs they can catch. I keep them safe in a netted run and their coop is probably better insulated than our house. For awhile I was going nuts reading everything I could find about Marek's and what people were using to treat their birds. One day I stopped reading as it dawned on me that I needed to take a lesson from raising kids. With the first kid, mothers go by the book, second kid, they throw the book away.

I'm now trying to establish a more relaxed attitude about my flock. Yes, we have Marek''s on our property. We bought our farm from a young Amish couple and knowing about how he took care of his animals, we probably have every agricultural bacteria known to mankind on our property besides Marek's. I'd love to have goats. Nope. Know for a fact the prior owner had goats and they were not taken care of any better than his other livestock were. Johne's Disease? Yeah, you betcha. Will bet real money that it's here. And yes, there are Amish out there who get the award for being the worst animal husbandry practitioners on the planet.

But knowing that Marek's is here is just going to make keeping chickens more of a challenge. I have accepted that from time to time, one or 10 are going to curl their little toes up fall over on their backs and fly off to that rainbow bridge in heaven. And accepting that, not liking it, but accepting it, means that I'm now in a better state of mind to enjoy my chickens TODAY. BTW. No body died today. YAY!

But tomorrow morning, I'll go into the coop to open the pop door. Two or three of the bantam youngsters are going to fly up and mob me because they know I have 4 slices of bread in my pocket for them, the roosters are going to be fussing at me, the hens pecking me on the head if I happen to walk under the roost and I will greet them with the same greeting that I've been using for the past 8 months since I found out I have Marek's in my flock.

"Morning gang! Who died overnight?"

Morbid humor? Hey, you gotta hang on to something when you are dealing with this disease. It might as well be a sense of humor.

I have several pictures of my birds with ocular Marek's that I'm going to try to get posted tomorrow. Just so everyone has an idea what to look for. DH promised he'd get them ran through the photo processor and posted so I can download them. I'll do my best to get them uploaded tomorrow.
 
Very well put @orrpeople.

I do the best I can by my birds. They get good high quality feed, scratch, boss, fresh fruit, veggies, left overs, how oatmeal laced with cinnamon and all the bugs they can catch. I keep them safe in a netted run and their coop is probably better insulated than our house. For awhile I was going nuts reading everything I could find about Marek's and what people were using to treat their birds. One day I stopped reading as it dawned on me that I needed to take a lesson from raising kids. With the first kid, mothers go by the book, second kid, they throw the book away.

I'm now trying to establish a more relaxed attitude about my flock. Yes, we have Marek''s on our property. We bought our farm from a young Amish couple and knowing about how he took care of his animals, we probably have every agricultural bacteria known to mankind on our property besides Marek's. I'd love to have goats. Nope. Know for a fact the prior owner had goats and they were not taken care of any better than his other livestock were. Johne's Disease? Yeah, you betcha. Will bet real money that it's here. And yes, there are Amish out there who get the award for being the worst animal husbandry practitioners on the planet.

But knowing that Marek's is here is just going to make keeping chickens more of a challenge. I have accepted that from time to time, one or 10 are going to curl their little toes up fall over on their backs and fly off to that rainbow bridge in heaven. And accepting that, not liking it, but accepting it, means that I'm now in a better state of mind to enjoy my chickens TODAY. BTW. No body died today. YAY!

But tomorrow morning, I'll go into the coop to open the pop door. Two or three of the bantam youngsters are going to fly up and mob me because they know I have 4 slices of bread in my pocket for them, the roosters are going to be fussing at me, the hens pecking me on the head if I happen to walk under the roost and I will greet them with the same greeting that I've been using for the past 8 months since I found out I have Marek's in my flock.

"Morning gang! Who died overnight?"

Morbid humor? Hey, you gotta hang on to something when you are dealing with this disease. It might as well be a sense of humor.

I have several pictures of my birds with ocular Marek's that I'm going to try to get posted tomorrow. Just so everyone has an idea what to look for. DH promised he'd get them ran through the photo processor and posted so I can download them. I'll do my best to get them uploaded tomorrow.
Thanks for the good chuckle - heck, if you can't laugh, you just cry - and I've had enough of that. Today was good here too. A couple I'm keeping an eye on, but they're still scratching and pecking, so we shall see what tomorrow holds (for some reason, scratching seems to be the first thing to go with my birds).
 
I have to admit it is a situation of mind over matter when I first saw one of my Welsummer hens galloping around the run singing her heart out with a baby mouse in her mouth. They had managed to scratch out a nest from under a board in our barn and it was party time! Of course she gulped it down before I could intervene but the thought that went through my mind was,I wonder if we are going to be eating mouse flavored eggs this week?

Yes, agreed. Trying to avoid the Herpes virus is like trying to avoid paying taxes....you might be able to get away with it for a while but sooner or later they are gonna catch up with you.

Had chicken pox? You've had a herpes virus. Shingles? Ditto. Cold sores? Yep, the list goes on but you get my drift. And yes, while not all herpes viruses that humans contract have the potential of giving you cancer, with chickens it's just about a given that if they survive the primary infection with Marek's, they will succumb to cancer at a later date.
well said, and the monitoring of said flock becomes a labor of love. I have what I call a watch list for mine.
 
Thank you @Taylorbrood. Yes, I have a mental watch list also. My husband still cant understand how I can tell them apart but I can and I know who is thriving, who is holding their own and who is having problems and possibly on their way out.

I haven't forgotten about the Marek's grey eye pictures....just gotta remember which camera chip they are on......
 
Interesting article @orrpeople. Thank you for posting the link.

Lyme disease also attaches itself to human DNA. I remember reading a report of DNA research being done on a 'freeze dried' corpse of an ancient human that was found. While studying his DNA they discovered a marker for Lyme Disease attached to his DNA.

Very scary stuff.
 
I think I'm dealing with this awful disease now. I'm getting the next one that croaks tested so I know for sure. With my track record it won't be long. Going from big plans of breeding to 50% loss has been a huge disappointment. On top of I can't seem to eat my eggs without getting sick even though everyone else in the house does just fine with them. Im just not willing to risk breeding and causing this heart ache for someone else. oh well nothing I can do about it, on the positive side I've got some gorgeous birds to enjoy daily.
If I am in fact dealing with a nasty strain of Marek's and chickens are out of the question does all poultry catch it? Or can I breed something else?
 

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