If you care to hear the rants/troubles of a young adult.

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Seems like a real good idea to me.

Not!!!! for the time, yes it is a way out... but enlisting in the Service is no place for a nice young girl like you. There are better options... I know been there done that...
 
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Seems like a real good idea to me.

Not!!!! for the time, yes it is a way out... but enlisting in the Service is no place for a nice young girl like you. There are better options... I know been there done that...

There are literary millions of young women in the world today with no options for education or a career other then chattel. This is one of the best countries on earth where you have options and the ability to exercise them. You should do so. (Hence, my P. S. about learning something to really whine about)
 
I find it odd to suggest a formal education but not an informal education like street smarts which allow your daughters to do an activity in a smart safe responsible way like the apparent formiddable task of negotiating a bicycle through the traffic and wierdos of the inner city. Some things come by experience coupled with advice.

It seems lately that our universities are not a safe place for young adults either.
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Apparently, the same planet as several others on this thread. I have known and known of many young adults, who quite enjoyed the life of coddling and irresponsibility, and parents who catered to it, without complaint. I got a set of cheap suitcases for my highschool graduation present.

Just because there are others who agree with you doesn't mean you are right. As for coddling I can understand that, but the OLD ways weren't the best ways. IMO it's not parents who coddle todays kids it's the rest of society.

I wanted my children to have the advantages I never had and the edge over your kids. Times have changed. While I used to go tricker treating by myself , it's just not wise anymore. For a girl to be riding a bike by herself or even with another friend is not safe. Nor is it for boys either. 1992 Sean Googin, Cazenovia , NY walking to meet his parents , from his job , never made it. They found his body in the lake. Only a fool would take such chances with their childs life.

Further more to suggest she have an adult talk with her mother is ridiculous. If she could muster up the courage to have such a talk, she'd be more mature than her mother. Which is why I suggested a Social Worker at school. Some parents follow the same vain they were brought up in. That doesn't make it right. Parents who use disparaging remarks as a means of getting their child to change are ignorant at best or fools at worst.

Nothing anyone here says can change my mind. I know when I'm right!
 
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The Army has one of if not the best engineering program available and for someone with great math skills it would be great place to explore the idea, male OR female. A grunt position in the Army is no comparison to the engineering field.
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Not!!!! for the time, yes it is a way out... but enlisting in the Service is no place for a nice young girl like you. There are better options... I know been there done that...

There are literary millions of young women in the world today with no options for education or a career other then chattel. This is one of the best countries on earth where you have options and the ability to exercise them. You should do so. (Hence, my P. S. about learning something to really whine about)
 
Well, before this argument gets even more heated, I just want to encourage Lotheriel to not give up, and keep going! It is really hard to find a job if you're a young person these days......
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Good luck!
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Seems like a real good idea to me.

Not!!!! for the time, yes it is a way out... but enlisting in the Service is no place for a nice young girl like you. There are better options... I know been there done that...

To the OP... If joining the military is something you would like to consider, don't be afraid to ask me any questions you have. 8+ years of Air Force active duty & reserve enlisted experience here.
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I do not agree with the comment above at all! Apparently, somebody got talked into signing up for the wrong job.
 
For those of you who have asked how I am doing Christmas shopping... I am using what's left of my graduation gifts. "Buying" presents using my parents' money ended a long time ago.

As far as joining the military service, I do not want to go there. Let's just say I have issues with some of the ways things are handled, etc. So that's out of the question because I do not want to do something that contradicts some of my personal beliefs.

And yes, I was homeschooled and have graduated. No social workers.

And if I have to be completely honest with you all, in this house, my mom and I are the only adults who really act like adults all the time.

I do appreciate all the ideas/input/opinions everyone has posted, but if this thread gets too heated with arguments I will ask the moderators to close it.
 
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This is exactly the thing I was going to suggest. See if you can take ownership of a chore or two and then work your butt off to make sure they're done frequently and correctly. If she doesn't think something was done properly, ask her to show you how she wants it done. Keep emotion out of it, don't be baited. It takes time to get out of the "pattern" of the arguments that you have together.

On the driving...I haven't read the whole thread, but do you have a copy of the driver's rules and regulations manual? You can learn all that on your own before you're ever behind the wheel. Same with the owner's manuals of the vehicles you may actually get to drive. Grab those and read through them. Act interested and ask questions when you're riding with someone ( but no pestering, lol!) I didn't bother to get my license until I was 18 because I knew I'd never be allowed to take the car myself, but I had the permit ready to go.

On jobs...it may not be easy for a young person to get started in a paying job in this economy right now, but how about volunteering on a regular basis somewhere? If you show that you are able to handle that well, then you are changing perspective on how both you and your mom view you! Is there a pet shelter that just needs people to come in and socialize the critters? And of course food banks always need people.

The world isn't going to be able to change overnight, sweetie, but if you have a plan and work it, you will get through this.
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