Incubators Anonymous

[gander007]

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Alright Sylviaanne, now I fully understand you were talking about and understand your methods and we have very little water out here and forget that others get more rain in ten minutes then we get all year long and that is a really good reason for dirty egg's and you need to find a way to remove the foreign matter off the egg's before incubation ...

I am still interested in your hatch rate doing this and yes I am always worried about bloom being washed off and I have seen egg's hatch that have been washed as many I have received in the Mail were evidently washed and no bloom was left ..... But a lot of them never even started to grow embryo's so I try to stay away but am very interested in what happens when you have to wash the egg's before putting them in the incubator .....

Thank you for responding

 

[Penny Hen]

Alright Sylviaanne, now I fully understand you were talking about and understand your methods and we have very little water out here and forget that others get more rain in ten minutes then we get all year long and that is a really good reason for dirty egg's and you need to find a way to remove the foreign matter off the egg's before incubation ...

I am still interested in your hatch rate doing this and yes I am always worried about bloom being washed off and I have seen egg's hatch that have been washed as many I have received in the Mail were evidently washed and no bloom was left ..... But a lot of them never even started to grow embryo's so I try to stay away but am very interested in what happens when you have to wash the egg's before putting them in the incubator .....

Thank you for responding

I want to chime in with the begining finding I had with vinegar. I tried a vinegar dip (30 seconds) before incubating this last time. Studies had shown a Vitamin C solution dip to increase hatchability. I didn't have any handy so I used apple cider vinegar at the same strength (5%). Vinegar and Vitamin C are not that different in chemical structure so I thought it might be a good substitute. So although I had some problems with my electrical power and didn't get any to hatch, there was a real difference in the eggtopsies. In the 3 attempted hatches before (I know: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune) I had some stinkers and putrid eggs when I finished. Using the vinegar their were no rotten ones. They had just stopped at different points of the development. Some had been on the verge of hatching before losing the electricity.

And the vinegar does remove the bloom it takes half the brown off of a brown egg.

 

[gander007]

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To bad you lost your electricity on that hatch as I am always open to new ideas and maybe later in the year when I have nothing to loose I might just try something like that just to see if there is a difference but for now I have some guinea egg's in the incubator so I will finish with them first but ACV, I trust that as it get's used for a lot of different things around the house .....

 

[CashandTracy]

My experience on washing eggs taught me allot. While I was practicing my hatching technique I got a hold of some very filthy eggs from a friend. I washed them in a bleach solution, I forgot to rinse them. Not a single one developed at all. My second batch from her was cleaner (after I had recommended some changes to her nests). I made a 10-1 bleach solution and rinsed them under warm to hot running water for the poop covered eggs, any that were just slightly dirty were simply rinsed under running water. That went better with about 50% hatching. Then next 2 hatches were my eggs only and clean so they were unwashed. My hatch rate was 100% and 80%. So wash don't wash? I say don't wash if you don't have to. If you have to just rinse gently under warm-hot running water.

JMHO

 

[Sylviaanne]

Alright Sylviaanne, now I fully understand you were talking about and understand your methods and we have very little water out here and forget that others get more rain in ten minutes then we get all year long and that is a really good reason for dirty egg's and you need to find a way to remove the foreign matter off the egg's before incubation ...

I am still interested in your hatch rate doing this and yes I am always worried about bloom being washed off and I have seen egg's hatch that have been washed as many I have received in the Mail were evidently washed and no bloom was left ..... But a lot of them never even started to grow embryo's so I try to stay away but am very interested in what happens when you have to wash the egg's before putting them in the incubator .....

Thank you for responding

I received some eggs in through the mail and some of them were soooo clean I wondered if they had been washed but I didn't ask because I didn't want to insult the breeder. Not all the eggs were clean, it was like 2 people packed the eggs, even the wrapping was like 2 people did it. I did not get a good hatch but at the same time all of them arrived with floating air sacks.

 

[Sylviaanne]

I want to chime in with the begining finding I had with vinegar. I tried a vinegar dip (30 seconds) before incubating this last time. Studies had shown a Vitamin C solution dip to increase hatchability. I didn't have any handy so I used apple cider vinegar at the same strength (5%). Vinegar and Vitamin C are not that different in chemical structure so I thought it might be a good substitute. So although I had some problems with my electrical power and didn't get any to hatch, there was a real difference in the eggtopsies. In the 3 attempted hatches before (I know: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune) I had some stinkers and putrid eggs when I finished. Using the vinegar their were no rotten ones. They had just stopped at different points of the development. Some had been on the verge of hatching before losing the electricity.

And the vinegar does remove the bloom it takes half the brown off of a brown egg.

Sounds interesting. How did you get 5%?
I will have to try washed and dipped in vinegar. Did you use regular vinegar or did you use something like Braggs? If the vinegar removes some of the brown from a brown egg, I might have pure white eggs to put in the bator. LOL My eggs are shades of tan, some so light I call them blush.

 

[gander007]

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That is a problem with sending egg's in the Mail all the altitude changes and bouncing wile driving down the road not to mention some of the handlers along the way who think it is funny to shake the box like a rattle .....

The only egg's I have ever sent out were well shaped and clean as we do not get much rain and it is really dry and the egg's come from a Straw filled nest but I learned it is just not good to sell egg's as the problems that arise by the time the package get to the other end and I have Mail ordered many a egg just to keep the blood lines clean of intra breeding ....... But there are times I believed the seller did not have a rooster even as there never was any development in any of the egg's ......

 

[gander007]

My experience on washing eggs taught me allot. While I was practicing my hatching technique I got a hold of some very filthy eggs from a friend. I washed them in a bleach solution, I forgot to rinse them. Not a single one developed at all. My second batch from her was cleaner (after I had recommended some changes to her nests). I made a 10-1 bleach solution and rinsed them under warm to hot running water for the poop covered eggs, any that were just slightly dirty were simply rinsed under running water. That went better with about 50% hatching. Then next 2 hatches were my eggs only and clean so they were unwashed. My hatch rate was 100% and 80%. So wash don't wash? I say don't wash if you don't have to. If you have to just rinse gently under warm-hot running water.

JMHO

That is why I only pick clean egg's for the incubator and it is never a problem and the rest go into the Refrigerator ....

 

[Puddin Fluff]

All you incubator experts: How detrimental is it to have a power outage of about 2-3 hours where the temps drop to 85 at day 5? We had a thunderstorm while I was at work. Currently trying to get the temps to level back out.

Thanks!

 

[misbhaven]

I have had a 7 hour outage and had one hatch right after..it takes a little while for the internal temp. of the eggs to drop you probably ok