If I took the time to provide you names and dates you would just debunk them as wackos or fringe or use some other debate tactic, Ted Turner does come to mind though.
Abstinence is a MORAL choice it just happens to originate from a christian principle
mor·al [ máwrəl ]
involving right and wrong: relating to issues of right and wrong and to how individual people should behave
derived from personal conscience: based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what rules or the law says should be done
according to common standard of justice: regarded in terms of what is known to be right or just, as opposed to what is officially or outwardly declared to be right or just
Synonyms: message, meaning, significance, rule, maxim, point, lesson, truism, aphorism, axiom, dictum
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Please provide names dates and what was actually said by liberals about using aids as a form of population control. Yes Aids is preventable as are most diseases. Best way is to have one partner and use protection until you know it's safe. Aids has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. I would bet that you know absolutely nothing about African cultures. Africa is a big place with a lot of cultures. I'm sure the only thing you know about Africa is what ever you have gleaned from your pastor friend.Population control is also increasingly being featured in many environmental documentaries and films. An example is The Planet-documentary, which describes the ongoing rising human population, its effects on the planet, and the necessity of population control.
As early as 1798, Thomas Malthus stated in his Essay on the Principle of Population that population control needed to be implemented into society. Around the year 1900, Sir Francis Galton said in his publication called "Hereditary Improvement" that, "The unfit could become enemies to the State, if they continue to propagate." In 1968, Paul Ehrlich noted in The Population Bomb that, "We must cut the cancer of population growth," and that, "if this was not done, there would be only one other solution, namely the death rate solution in which we raise the death rate through war-famine-pestilence etc.
In the same year, another prominent modern advocate for mandatory population control was Garrett Hardin, who proposed in his landmark 1968 essay The Tragedy of the Commons that society must relinquish the "freedom to breed" through "mutual coercion, mutually agreed upon." Later on, in 1972, he reaffirmed his support in his new essay Exploring New Ethics for Survival, by stating that, We are breeding ourselves into oblivion. Prominent personalities like Bertrand Russell, Margaret Sanger (1939), John D. Rockefeller, Frederick Osborn (1952), Isaac Asimov or Jacques Cousteau also advocated population control.
Today, a number of influential people advocate population control. They are:
David Attenborough[34]
Michael E. Arth[35]
Jonathon Porritt, UK sustainable development commissioner[36]
Sara Parkin[37]
Crispin Tickell[38]
The head of the UN Millennium Project Jeffrey Sachs is also a heavy proponent of decreasing the effects of overpopulation. In 2007, Jeffrey Sachs gave a number of lectures (2007 Reith Lectures) about population control and overpopulation. In his lectures, called "Bursting at the Seams", he featured an integrated approach that would deal with a number of problems associated with overpopulation and poverty reduction. For example, when criticized for advocating mosquito nets he argued that child survival was, "by far one of the most powerful ways," to achieve fertility reduction, as this would assure poor families that the smaller number of children they had would survive.[39]
Is this enough dates and names? They are liberal in case you didn't know and some say "pestilence" as a means. Time to put away the Kool- aid
Abstinence is not a moral idea and has nothing to do with morals. Abstinence is a Christian idea. Christianity is a belief in Jesus Christ and has nothing to do with morals. So what you should be saying is that abstinence is a Christian idea. Morals and conservatism don't play into it. It's also one of the very least effective methods of birth control. Most effective is honest and frank discussions with children reaching those years and not making it into something taboo just waiting to be tried. Teaching children the difference between the act and doing the same with a person you truly love vs giving into primal urges. That's not a liberal position. It is a common sense position and is practiced by many conservatives.
Pardon my being blunt, but I don't believe you actually know what a conservative is. The Republican party hasn't been conservative for years. The last conservative was probably Eisenhower.
On Obamas BC. I assume you mean it is supposed to be a copy of the original vs the original. It seems to have satisfied everyone that mattered. All the birther pundits have stopped using to suck gullible listeners in. Trump gave up his bid for POTUS when OBAMA finally put the issue to rest. Seems like the man just shuts the pundits down and makes fools of them every time they come up with some other scheme to suck people in.
Abstinence is a MORAL choice it just happens to originate from a christian principle
mor·al [ máwrəl ]
involving right and wrong: relating to issues of right and wrong and to how individual people should behave
derived from personal conscience: based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what rules or the law says should be done
according to common standard of justice: regarded in terms of what is known to be right or just, as opposed to what is officially or outwardly declared to be right or just
Synonyms: message, meaning, significance, rule, maxim, point, lesson, truism, aphorism, axiom, dictum
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary
Quote:
Please provide names dates and what was actually said by liberals about using aids as a form of population control. Yes Aids is preventable as are most diseases. Best way is to have one partner and use protection until you know it's safe. Aids has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. I would bet that you know absolutely nothing about African cultures. Africa is a big place with a lot of cultures. I'm sure the only thing you know about Africa is what ever you have gleaned from your pastor friend.Population control is also increasingly being featured in many environmental documentaries and films. An example is The Planet-documentary, which describes the ongoing rising human population, its effects on the planet, and the necessity of population control.
As early as 1798, Thomas Malthus stated in his Essay on the Principle of Population that population control needed to be implemented into society. Around the year 1900, Sir Francis Galton said in his publication called "Hereditary Improvement" that, "The unfit could become enemies to the State, if they continue to propagate." In 1968, Paul Ehrlich noted in The Population Bomb that, "We must cut the cancer of population growth," and that, "if this was not done, there would be only one other solution, namely the death rate solution in which we raise the death rate through war-famine-pestilence etc.
In the same year, another prominent modern advocate for mandatory population control was Garrett Hardin, who proposed in his landmark 1968 essay The Tragedy of the Commons that society must relinquish the "freedom to breed" through "mutual coercion, mutually agreed upon." Later on, in 1972, he reaffirmed his support in his new essay Exploring New Ethics for Survival, by stating that, We are breeding ourselves into oblivion. Prominent personalities like Bertrand Russell, Margaret Sanger (1939), John D. Rockefeller, Frederick Osborn (1952), Isaac Asimov or Jacques Cousteau also advocated population control.
Today, a number of influential people advocate population control. They are:
David Attenborough[34]
Michael E. Arth[35]
Jonathon Porritt, UK sustainable development commissioner[36]
Sara Parkin[37]
Crispin Tickell[38]
The head of the UN Millennium Project Jeffrey Sachs is also a heavy proponent of decreasing the effects of overpopulation. In 2007, Jeffrey Sachs gave a number of lectures (2007 Reith Lectures) about population control and overpopulation. In his lectures, called "Bursting at the Seams", he featured an integrated approach that would deal with a number of problems associated with overpopulation and poverty reduction. For example, when criticized for advocating mosquito nets he argued that child survival was, "by far one of the most powerful ways," to achieve fertility reduction, as this would assure poor families that the smaller number of children they had would survive.[39]
Is this enough dates and names? They are liberal in case you didn't know and some say "pestilence" as a means. Time to put away the Kool- aid
Abstinence is not a moral idea and has nothing to do with morals. Abstinence is a Christian idea. Christianity is a belief in Jesus Christ and has nothing to do with morals. So what you should be saying is that abstinence is a Christian idea. Morals and conservatism don't play into it. It's also one of the very least effective methods of birth control. Most effective is honest and frank discussions with children reaching those years and not making it into something taboo just waiting to be tried. Teaching children the difference between the act and doing the same with a person you truly love vs giving into primal urges. That's not a liberal position. It is a common sense position and is practiced by many conservatives.
Pardon my being blunt, but I don't believe you actually know what a conservative is. The Republican party hasn't been conservative for years. The last conservative was probably Eisenhower.
On Obamas BC. I assume you mean it is supposed to be a copy of the original vs the original. It seems to have satisfied everyone that mattered. All the birther pundits have stopped using to suck gullible listeners in. Trump gave up his bid for POTUS when OBAMA finally put the issue to rest. Seems like the man just shuts the pundits down and makes fools of them every time they come up with some other scheme to suck people in.
