Internal/false Laying = inevitable death???

[jjthink]

How long ago did the problem seem to begin?
If recently, hopefully it's a temporary situation due to no access to calcium for those few days. I imagine the whole cycle can go bonkers when one of the crucial building blocks is absent. With any luck, her body will get back on track.
JJ

 

[ChicknThief]

This has been a problem for months unfortunately. I was just kind of hoping it would go away on its own.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

Here, try this. Bring her in for awhile, so you know she is warm and unstressed by the rest of the flock. Put her in a room you do not use very often, and use a lamp for the lighting(if room has windows, close the blinds).

Buy a timer for the lamp, usually you can get these at Wal-mart, they go into the outlet and the you plug the lamp into the timer. Leave the lamp in the on setting, and the timer will cut the power supply on and off as the timer is set.

You want to set the timer to mimic winter hours. You want to create "short" days artificially in this room. If it is the start of the internal laying, the "short winter" days should slow down maybe even stop production.

Pamper her for awhile. Feed her chick starter and other sources of good protein. Keep her well supplied with crushed up egg-shells(sometimes they prefer egg-shell over oyster shell) and her grit. I would also put her on a small dose of antibiotic in her water.

I would do this for a few weeks and then slowly change the timer settings until she begins production again. Hopefully, things would be back to normal and you can slowly(!) put her back where she belongs.

I know this may disagree with other people's advice, I'm not trying to argue with other people's advice. This is just what I, personally, would do in the circumstance.

I hope she improves, keep us posted! Maybe a few pictures of the vent area, both clean and dirty, would be helpful. If it does have a rash, try to get it in the pictures.

-Kim

 

[crystalchik]

Hi,
GwenFarms, I will post those pics as soon as can! As for the area of the mass, I noticed it in the very back and more towards the bottom of the abdomin. It really felt like an egg, which...I guess it was! It actually seemed slightly higher when I first noticed it, and then slowly began to descend farther down. I would say that that yellow stuff does sound like caked yolk. If you can, maybe try and get her X-rayed. That would be not only interesting, but you may be able to catch it early, or you may even find something else. I meant to ask you this: How long has she been having the discharge??
Wolf-Kim, I think your method is something worth giving a try...I never thought of the laying cycle!

Best of luck and God bless, Crystalchik

 

[Wolf-Kim]

Quote:
I did it once when I wanted to know if I had a rooster or a hen(looked like a hen, but my roo acted like she was a roo). Except I did the opposite, and made the days "longer" and got my answer was "she" started laying.

-Kim

 

[crystalchik]

That is really awesome! Thank you for the information! I am sure I will need it some time, and could have used it in the past!
God bless, Crystalchik

 

[crystalchik]

Hi everyone...I am sooo sorry it took so long so get back!!!! How is she doing?? My picture service does not allow me to download pictures into the correct format that BYC allows. In other words, I cannot load the pics onto here. However, if you are interested still, you can email me at: [email protected] and I can email you the pics of the Yolk Paratonitis, they are very good pics. I am sorry for the inconvenience!
Cystalchik

 

[ChicknThief]

crystalchik, she is very much the same. She just layed a shelless today and got yolk all over the nesting box. I haven't felt her abdomen recently, but doubt very much that there will be anything large there if anything at all. This is a rather slow moving thing isn't it?

 

[d.k]

* I wonder if she did start laying good eggs again, if it would help push all the bad yolks out-- or do you think it would make matters worse??

 

[crystalchik]

Gosh, I am sorry to hear that ChicknThief. Yes, it is a rather slow process. For my hen, it took a little over 8 months. I dont know if you even want to think about ( I know how hard it can be), but I have pics of what might be going on inside her. Though I can't post them, I would be happy to email them to you.
d.k, I dont think it would get rid of the other yolks, it might just stop the process from continuing. But eventually, she would probably get an infection. Truethfully, I dont know, though. Anything is possible I guess???
ChickenThief, did you try Wolf-Kim's idea?
Again, I am so sorry.
Crystalchik