Internal Layers and Other Egg Issues....Will this never end?? LONG

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by speckledhen, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Hi, all. Most of you know that I've lost three girls to internal laying and I have two more who seem to be going the same way. Today, I noticed one of my Poufy-Head Sisters, the smallest girl, Tux just standing around. She was a bit off yesterday, too, so I picked her up and took her to the house. In examining her, we found part of a soft shelled egg hanging out of her vent and when we gently pulled on it, what I believe was the rest of the shell came out. I'm afraid she will develop peritonitis so we decided it was best to do Penicillin injections for 3 days to maybe head off trouble.
    Tux is molting; she'll be 2 years old in January. Seems the molts this year are really awful. I have several bare-bottomed ladies. And when they molt, seems that some develop egg issues. It's just very hard on their systems and they are using protein to grow feathers back, etc.
    We have the broody pen empty in Suede's coop, underneath Zane's dog kennel he lives in, so we grabbed Tux along with Rosemary and Ivy and put them together in there so the roosters would leave them alone and they could rest in a low light setting.
    Rosemary is a RIR, hatchery type, who is almost 3 years old. She hasnt laid an egg in maybe 7 months or so. Her tailfeathers are turning white on the edges, like an old lady going gray. It's very odd, something I've not seen before. She and my BR, Ivy, are both very thin though they do eat. Since I've gone through this several times, I'm 99% sure I will lose them both before the end of the year. Ivy hasn't laid an egg in maybe 2 months. That will be 5 out of 10 original girls gone from a hormone imbalance. And then I lost Hawkeye to what I thought was a drug reaction, but he may have just had a heart attack. And Zane was hurt right after that. I sure hope all the bad finishes up this year so 2009 can be better.
    As far as Tux is concerned, I crushed up a Tums and gave it to her in yogurt, then gave her some crumbled cornbread with olive oil. Besides giving her penicillin to ward off infection, any other suggestions? Oh, we did syringe some mineral oil up her vent in case there is anything else in there that needs to be expelled.
     
  2. MissPrissy

    MissPrissy Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    That just sucks! I am so sorry, Cyn.

    This years molt has been the longest and hardest I have ever experienced with my own chickens.

    My only known solution is feed them meat scraps, vitamins, keep them in low light to prevent egg production and keep them warm.
     
  3. CarriBrown

    CarriBrown Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

    You poor thing! :aww It's just been bad this year with the molting and all of the problems.
    I agree with Angie and with what you've done so far. Let them rest without a rooster bugging them, feed them extra protein, keep them warm and in low light so the dears don't try to lay through this difficult time.
     
  4. jjthink

    jjthink Overrun With Chickens

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    Oh dear, what a year indeed Cyn. Never a dull moment, when dull would be as welcome as a warm sunny day.

    I hope Tux feels better soon. And that Rosemary and Ivy do better than expected. Having lost Betty to internal laying, and seeing what a godawful toll it takes it's just so unfair for all these feathered young ladies. Annie then died of an apparent heart attack from trying to get an egg out, an egg only a few hours overdue. And now Ellie's comb is pale again - not sure why. ERRGGGGGG!!!!!!! And that's only a fraction of what you've been enduring.

    For Betty, antibiotics and anti-inflammatories bought her some time, and then eventually they no longer worked and she got so weak and pale and wouldn't/couldn't eat (I should have either had her relieved of her misery sooner or gotten her a hysterectomy sooner - she died 2 hours after the surgery [​IMG]). The type of antibiotic prescribed varied over time. The only other thing that comes to mind is to bolster in every way possible their nutrition, and you're probably already doing that. I use Avia Charge 2000 in their water and clearly it didn't prevent these things from happening but I can only hope it delayed them.

    I really hope 2009 is nice and calm and pain free for you and your feather kids.
    JJ
     
  5. ruth

    ruth Life is a Journey

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    Cyn, I'm so sorry to hear about all of the troubles and issues. Wish there was something I could say or do or suggest that would make things all better. Keep us updated because we all do learn something from your experiences so they are not in vain.

    Monique
     
  6. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Tomorrow morning, I'll scramble the three girls some eggs and give them that with yogurt. Really, there is nothing I can do for Ivy and Rosemary since there is no cure for internal laying other than hysterectomy. I just wanted them to rest and be free of the roosters attentions. Tux is the one I'm worried about. She's never had an egg issue before now. I'm just so happy that I am in tune with my flock and noticed that something was off about her! Tux, Kate and Olivia are sisters and even though they were accidental crosses, I wouldn't take $1000 for any one of them.
     
  7. EweSheep

    EweSheep Flock Mistress

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    Oh no!

    This looks like a bad year for most of us with internal layers since I lost a few that way too! Dang, it must be the weather or bad feed going on! I wish the girls will talk to us and tell us whats bothering them or how sick they are.

    Hope you got her in time.............only a matter of time whether or not Tux will survive. It really sucks!
     
  8. Squeaky

    Squeaky I squeak, therefore I am

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    (((hugs)))
     
  9. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Gave the three in the pen some scrambled eggs, yogurt and crumbled cornbread with olive oil. Tux at the most, Ivy ate a few bites of egg and Rosemary wouldn't even look at the food. She just kept drinking from the waterer, standing in one place. I think she'll be next to go.
     
  10. Buster

    Buster Back to Work

    Sorry to hear this Cyn. I hope your birds get better. I had about 5 birds go through hard molts this year to the point they were almost naked.
     

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