International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

TheBajan

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Day 19... I have several that have pipped internally from the larger eggs in my DIY cabinet incubator! The largest egg is still only at 7% weight loss and has the smallest air sac. I candled and drew the air sac so I can tell if it pips in the right spot. It's the one I have been most concerned about. When I candled, I didn't see movement in most of the eggs including that one. The good news is that after I put them back in the 'bator, she started rocking and rolling! I'm so happy to know she's still kickin' around in there! Keep those fingers crossed and prayers going! :fl 🙏 :wee
 

marchick

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Day 19... I have several that have pipped internally from the larger eggs in my DIY cabinet incubator! The largest egg is still only at 7% weight loss and has the smallest air sac. I candled and drew the air sac so I can tell if it pips in the right spot. It's the one I have been most concerned about. When I candled, I didn't see movement in most of the eggs including that one. The good news is that after I put them back in the 'bator, she started rocking and rolling! I'm so happy to know she's still kickin' around in there! Keep those fingers crossed and prayers going! :fl 🙏 :wee
Praying you get a good hatch! Can't wait to see them!
 

Punkybrewster

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Day 19... I have several that have pipped internally from the larger eggs in my DIY cabinet incubator! The largest egg is still only at 7% weight loss and has the smallest air sac. I candled and drew the air sac so I can tell if it pips in the right spot. It's the one I have been most concerned about. When I candled, I didn't see movement in most of the eggs including that one. The good news is that after I put them back in the 'bator, she started rocking and rolling! I'm so happy to know she's still kickin' around in there! Keep those fingers crossed and prayers going! :fl 🙏 :wee

Hows it going with the hatch?
 

TheBajan

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So I have good news, bad news, and a question. Let's start with the good news... right now I have 7 hatched and doing fine. 6 more have externally pipped. Here are a couple of pics.
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Now for the bad news. I dropped an egg last night and it cracked. It began leaking very watery yolk everywhere. I cleaned it, candled it and put it back but judging by the watery consistency, I think it was already DIS. Either way, it's showing no signs of life.

And now the question.... the egg I've been most concerned about is #3. You can see it in the picture next to the chick at the front. This is my largest egg with an original weight of 76g and only 7% weight loss. Before lock-down I drew the air sac so I could keep an eye on everyone's pipping action. When I candled it today, I could no longer see the air sac at all but I could feel movement. I got concerned that it was going to drown and decided to give it a tiny air vent in the area I had drawn the air sac. You can see that in the picture. Jump ahead to just now. I have a new picture of it's current status. It's clearly not yet ready to hatch but it appears to have completely filled the shell and the membrane is pulling away from the shell (shrink-wrapping). I am able to peak down between the membrane and the side of the shell and I can see the beak so I know it's getting air. My question is, what am I looking at? It's clearly a malpositioned chick and it's clearly being shrink-wrapped. What part of the chick am i seeing in this view? I know it's not ready to hatch so I'm just going to keep the membrane moist and try to keep other chicks from disturbing it but I also know it's going to need my assistance. Thought?
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marchick

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So I have good news, bad news, and a question. Let's start with the good news... right now I have 7 hatched and doing fine. 6 more have externally pipped. Here are a couple of pics.
View attachment 2277422 View attachment 2277423

Now for the bad news. I dropped an egg last night and it cracked. It began leaking very watery yolk everywhere. I cleaned it, candled it and put it back but judging by the watery consistency, I think it was already DIS. Either way, it's showing no signs of life.

And now the question.... the egg I've been most concerned about is #3. You can see it in the picture next to the chick at the front. This is my largest egg with an original weight of 76g and only 7% weight loss. Before lock-down I drew the air sac so I could keep an eye on everyone's pipping action. When I candled it today, I could no longer see the air sac at all but I could feel movement. I got concerned that it was going to drown and decided to give it a tiny air vent in the area I had drawn the air sac. You can see that in the picture. Jump ahead to just now. I have a new picture of it's current status. It's clearly not yet ready to hatch but it appears to have completely filled the shell and the membrane is pulling away from the shell (shrink-wrapping). I am able to peak down between the membrane and the side of the shell and I can see the beak so I know it's getting air. My question is, what am I looking at? It's clearly a malpositioned chick and it's clearly being shrink-wrapped. What part of the chick am i seeing in this view? I know it's not ready to hatch so I'm just going to keep the membrane moist and try to keep other chicks from disturbing it but I also know it's going to need my assistance. Thought?
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It will dry out and isn't ready. If drying I would gently moisten it carefully so it doesn't bleed. I have seen people that have dropped a egg and use scotch tap to mostly cover the hole to keep some of the air out. To keep it from drying while the chick builds strength and absorbs egg yolk and blood vessels. Next time I would not help. I know it's hard but the eggs that hatch show they are healthy. It needs time now.
 

marchick

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So I have good news, bad news, and a question. Let's start with the good news... right now I have 7 hatched and doing fine. 6 more have externally pipped. Here are a couple of pics.
View attachment 2277422 View attachment 2277423

Now for the bad news. I dropped an egg last night and it cracked. It began leaking very watery yolk everywhere. I cleaned it, candled it and put it back but judging by the watery consistency, I think it was already DIS. Either way, it's showing no signs of life.

And now the question.... the egg I've been most concerned about is #3. You can see it in the picture next to the chick at the front. This is my largest egg with an original weight of 76g and only 7% weight loss. Before lock-down I drew the air sac so I could keep an eye on everyone's pipping action. When I candled it today, I could no longer see the air sac at all but I could feel movement. I got concerned that it was going to drown and decided to give it a tiny air vent in the area I had drawn the air sac. You can see that in the picture. Jump ahead to just now. I have a new picture of it's current status. It's clearly not yet ready to hatch but it appears to have completely filled the shell and the membrane is pulling away from the shell (shrink-wrapping). I am able to peak down between the membrane and the side of the shell and I can see the beak so I know it's getting air. My question is, what am I looking at? It's clearly a malpositioned chick and it's clearly being shrink-wrapped. What part of the chick am i seeing in this view? I know it's not ready to hatch so I'm just going to keep the membrane moist and try to keep other chicks from disturbing it but I also know it's going to need my assistance. Thought?
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How is the one chick in the egg doing? How is the rest if the hatch going. Look up on BYC helping egg hatch. I think there are videos. Praying it goes well!
 

TheBajan

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How is the one chick in the egg doing? How is the rest if the hatch going. Look up on BYC helping egg hatch. I think there are videos. Praying it goes well!
Thank you for asking. Right now there are 12 hatched, one more external pip, 3 more I believe are viable but no pipping, and then the one that I'm assisting. It's doing fine. The beak is visible now and it's doing a lot of chirping. It's just filled the entire shell and I'm very slowly peeling back the membrane. It's still not completely absorbed the veins so when I see any bleeding I stop, moisten it with coconut oil and wait again. It's about 1/3 exposed now but not ready yet and I'm removing enough to keep the membrane from sticking to her but not so much that it has enough wiggle room to hatch too soon.
Keep those prayers coming. I really want to save this baby!
 

marchick

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Thank you for asking. Right now there are 12 hatched, one more external pip, 3 more I believe are viable but no pipping, and then the one that I'm assisting. It's doing fine. The beak is visible now and it's doing a lot of chirping. It's just filled the entire shell and I'm very slowly peeling back the membrane. It's still not completely absorbed the veins so when I see any bleeding I stop, moisten it with coconut oil and wait again. It's about 1/3 exposed now but not ready yet and I'm removing enough to keep the membrane from sticking to her but not so much that it has enough wiggle room to hatch too soon.
Keep those prayers coming. I really want to save this baby!
Prayers going up! Congratulations on the 12 hatched and 3 pipped. That's awsome!
 

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