Heh tom you can't find poultry processors here for less than lots of 500.... So I just do my own. I'm getting better! My sister on the other hand, raises organic meat birds for Tyson and that's so completely different from what us breeders do, it's crazy! 30,000 chicks per barn, 8 weeks to finish! Could you imagine having a 5 lb bird at 8 weeks old? And the processors come to her place to load up the whole barn at a time, all in all out. It's so different from my teeny operation! She's never seen the parents, I'm on year 7 with the same flock!