International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

Chooks man

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luckily God is above all!

my girl is a true green layer. I will put her with a pure cream legbar roo and work on creating cuckoo legbars. when life gives you lemons, make lemonade!

the company that created these hybrids crossed back legbars to leghorns and plymouth rocks to increase egg and meat production. as leghorns and rocks have already been used in creating legbars it is not as bad. all of girls that lay green eggs with shells green inside/outside will be put with pure legbar roos. I just need to find one that is pure.
I still can not believe it ,why Greek guy go and buy chooks from a Italian guy . never red any thing like it in any book .since when Italy is famous for breeding high quality chooks .
God has cosmos to look after ,chooks peoples should manage they own business and not buying chooks from Italy .

I m with you ,if you pullet lay green egg inside /outside than breed from her .
good luck if finding a cockerel . make sure they are not made in Italy please .

chooks man
 

Chooks man

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can you give your good birds to a friend breeder? that would be a sort of back up just in case...
like the idea .
I did send a lot breeders chooks to friends all over OZ . so if some thing happen to my flock I can always get some fertile eggs or chooks from them .that how I m getting my old wheaten line back .my friend kept me 6 trios that she hatched from my chooks .

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marchick

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if you are going to keep breeding chooks to a highest level ,than you need to toughen up .or just have layer .never mind breeding .you can have as many chooks as you like for as long as you want them ,same flock for years .
do what make you happy .

chooks man.
Of course I am going to keep breeding to the highest level because that is what makes me happy. I still might cringe a little to make a difficult decision. Especially one I might regret later. I am just worried my flock might not have enough diversity. Remember I almost culled my second best cockerel because of the spots. I am just trying not to do that again. There are some tough decisions and I just don't want to regret my decisions.
 
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marchick

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can you give your good birds to a friend breeder? that would be a sort of back up just in case...
Most of my friends are not into chickens. I give them eggs free so probably don't feel the need to raise their own.I do have one friend that keeps saying she wants some of my birds when they get the house and pen built but hasn't got them done. It's been 2 years.
 

kcrandall

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Of course I am going to keep breeding to the highest level because that is what makes me happy. I still might cringe a little to make a difficult decision. Especially one I might regret later. I am just worried my flock might not have enough diversity.
With 20+ hens/pullets and 4 cocks/cockerels you should have enough diversity even though they are related (full siblings, half siblings, cousins, etc.). Poultry genetics can withstand a fair amount of inbreeding unlike mammal genetics.
 

marchick

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luckily God is above all!

my girl is a true green layer. I will put her with a pure cream legbar roo and work on creating cuckoo legbars. when life gives you lemons, make lemonade!

the company that created these hybrids crossed back legbars to leghorns and plymouth rocks to increase egg and meat production. as leghorns and rocks have already been used in creating legbars it is not as bad. all of girls that lay green eggs with shells green inside/outside will be put with pure legbar roos. I just need to find one that is pure.
Yes, God is above all! That sounds like a fun project. I hope you can find a pure legbar rooster.
 

marchick

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With 20+ hens/pullets and 4 cocks/cockerels you should have enough diversity even though they are related (full siblings, half siblings, cousins, etc.). Poultry genetics can withstand a fair amount of inbreeding unlike mammal genetics.
Thank you! I get a little worried about messing things up. It definitely is a learning process. I will get there though. I want to improve them as close to standard as I can. That is my desire. I love my Marans!
 
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Tom Bright

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Thank you! I get a little worried about messing things up. I want to improve them as close to standard as I can. That is my desire. I love my Marans!
I believe that we are only a four drive from each other? I would love to trade some birds any time you want!! WE have some nice BCM and should never need anymore genes than we have.
Please pm me !
Did you sell all of your BLUES
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TOM
 

marchick

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I believe that we are only a four drive from each other? I would love to trade some birds any time you want!! WE have some nice BCM and should never need anymore genes than we have.
Please pm me !
Did you sell all of your BLUES View attachment 2423379
TOM
I believe 3 BC and 5 BLCM 1 hen and 7 pullets went the other day. I still have both BC and BLC. I will message you.
 

marchick

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I believe that we are only a four drive from each other? I would love to trade some birds any time you want!! WE have some nice BCM and should never need anymore genes than we have.
Please pm me !
Did you sell all of your BLUES View attachment 2423379
TOM
Pm sent. I still have BLC. I don't think I want to mix my line if I don't have to. A second line would be a possibility but I would have to come up with more pens. I am waiting to see how the middle group matures. I may have extra in the spring. My plan was to pick out the best for breeders. The rest would be layers/ back up just in case. The other option is I will also be hatching and growing out a few in the spring probably not many. I can set you up though either way.
 

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