International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Punkybrewster]

Excellent hatch down on this chick! Hope he turns into a nice cockerel.

Me too!

 

[Punkybrewster]

So Georgia lays a dark egg.
It took a while to identify her egg because she would not lay one when separated from the flock.

She is the only pullet with a correct, low tail.

She is the one I am to collect and hatch eggs from in April when she turns 10 months.
Waylon will be the sire.

 

[Chooks man]

So Georgia lays a dark egg.
It took a while to identify her egg because she would not lay one when separated from the flock.

She is the only pullet with a correct, low tail.

She is the one I am to collect and hatch eggs from in April when she turns 10 months.
Waylon will be the sire.View attachment 2520300

very nice .
want to check ,Georgia is the one not related to any of you other lines?
wishing you all the best .
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Yes. I think the travel may have been worth it. I am still worried about the white underfluff that his sire had but as you say,
"Wait and let him grow up to see what he becomes."

I told you .forget about the white now .
every thing could be bred in or out not problem in this department , a problem is witch trait we have to focus to breed true first and what traits we leave till last . that will be our main focus .

don t take me wrong .will be nice if the cockerel will have no white at all . but my worry is does he has a correct tail and correct copper . never forget in witch order the traits has to be bred . we can not breed all the faults in one generation from bought eggs . not that simple and easy .
lot hard work will go to breed any chooks line . BCM are more complex than any other chooks varieties out there . too many things to balance .

chooks man

 

[Bluebonnet Poultry TX]

Excellent hatch down on this chick! Hope he turns into a nice cockerel.

May I ask why his hatch down is excellent? I didn’t know that there was a preferred hatch down.

 

[Punkybrewster]

very nice .
want to check ,Georgia is the one not related to any of you other lines?
wishing you all the best .
chooks man

Georga was the only one to hatch from shipped eggs I incubated last spring.
She is not related to any other marans I have.

 

[Punkybrewster]

May I ask why his hatch down is excellent? I didn’t know that there was a preferred hatch down.

Hatch down tells a lot about a marans chick.
I am going to leave this question to someone who can answer it better than I can.

I know it is related to purity of the line.

Too much white hatch down shows that your chick may be sensitive to parasitic white as an adult.

Marans chick should have short hatch down. Not long and fluffy.

Dusty, sooty, minimal white is prefered. It shows nothing has been added to this pure line.

Correct me if I am wrong somebody.

 

[Chooks man]

Georga was the only one to hatch from shipped eggs I incubated last spring.
She is not related to any other marans I have.

great to know . future cockerels will come out of this pairing I think . Georgia s line . they should be chunky with a low tail angle .
I really do like this hen ,

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Hatch down tells a lot about a marans chick.
I am going to leave this question to someone who can answer it better than I can.

I know it is related to purity of the line.

Too much white hatch down shows that your chick may be sensitive to parasitic white as an adult.

Marans chick should have short hatch down. Not long and fluffy.

Dusty, sooty, minimal white is prefered. It shows nothing has been added to this pure line.

Correct me if I am wrong somebody.

you are correct .
each variety has it own hatch down pattern and fluff length . hatch down can tell us a lot about all the added modifier or parasitic genes .can tell us too the purity of the strain .
pure BCM chicks hatch down look different than impure chick .

some BCM lines have a bad hatch down pattern because of poor selection .

chooks man

 

[kcrandall]

May I ask why his hatch down is excellent? I didn’t know that there was a preferred hatch down.

BCM chicks should be black with a white (or light gray) throat, belly and lower butt. We sometimes refer to their hatch coloration as “penguin type” because, well, they color should look like a penguin. Some BCM lines produce chicks with white down around their eyes and on their head, neck and back...in our experience this is generally bad because as adults these chicks may express parasitic white or poor color pattern for a BCM. As your chicks grow it’s OK if they have white primary wing feathers or foot feathers as these will normally molt out by their last juvenile molt. With that said, a chick with proper hatch down can express parasitic white as an adult too so there are no guarantees. Males are more likely than not to express parasitic white than females. So, when selecting our future breeders it is more important that the Coq not express any white as he passes his genes to all of his chicks whereas the female passes her genes to her sons.