International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by RedBanks, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. Choco Maran

    Choco Maran Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I see a small spot( or imperfection ) on the comb about half way, but I would not say it was a sprig, and I'm not sure what a coronation is.
     
  2. RedBanks

    RedBanks Overrun With Chickens

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    I see a bump northwest of his eye in the tiny feathers.
     
  3. Choco Maran

    Choco Maran Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'll give him a few more months and watch how he develops.
     
  4. RedBanks

    RedBanks Overrun With Chickens

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    Of course.....
     
  5. Chooks man

    Chooks man Overrun With Chickens

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    look closely to the serration of his comb .he have 4 big dents .the first one is not clean dent there is a small one sticking it to it forming a M. that is sprig there.

    at the end of the comb there is another M on top end . not a clean shape .

    chooks man
     
  6. RedBanks

    RedBanks Overrun With Chickens

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    Thank you for this lesson. I wasn't looking there. I see what you mean. Combs are difficult aren't they?
     
  7. Chooks man

    Chooks man Overrun With Chickens

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    they are very difficult to deal with if you don t know what are doing,

    genetically speaking they are easy to fix ,because they are not related to something else . comb is comb . not like the feathers color . mahogany related to a black . ears tufts related to a shoulder and chest colors . this are difficult point to fix .NOT the comb , feathered shanks and all this sort of stuff.

    when we want to fix this sort of problem we only need one breeder out of the 2 with the quality we are looking for.we can see this sort of things . So they are easy to fix. that why I leave them to the end. not a big deal .
    Eggs color . type. correct copper, nice pattern .all this point are hard to breed ,they take time to fix.

    chooks man
     
  8. Chooks man

    Chooks man Overrun With Chickens

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    here a 6 weeks old Blue copper cockerel with a nice eyes ( Blue ) and nice comb .free from any defect .[​IMG]
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    Black copper cockerel with a nice comb ( not great but free from any deformity ) .nice eyes too .

    young marans with a Green /Blue eyes will have nice orange eyes when adult.

    chooks man
     
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  9. Chooks man

    Chooks man Overrun With Chickens

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    the type of comb come from the mother hen. she have more to do with it than a rooster.

    How we fix this problem ?

    if we have a rooster with so many quality but with a bad comb than we have to work with and fix the problem .

    we have to find a hen with a great comb even if she is not good in other thing ( except the mossyness . i never breed from a mossy hens ) we mate her to the Rooster we selected and we hatch some F1 chicks ( a lot of them will have a nice comb).

    we select pullets from this F1 progeny with a good combs and mate them back to they sire F0 ( Rooster with a bad comb and other good qualities ) = we get the F2 progeny .a lot of them will have a nice comb and other good quality from they father.

    we chose a cockerel from this F2 progeny with a good comb and other quality of his father and mate him to his dam/ants and produce F3 most of them will have a great comb and the qualities we kept from they sire.

    Et Voila .

    chooks man
     
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  10. Chooks man

    Chooks man Overrun With Chickens

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    here how I select for type as early as i can .
    I do not feed the one s I m not going to keep . [​IMG]

    Both cockerels are 17 days old . the one on the right Orange tag is great type short and chunky . well wide from the rear. he is a keeper.
    the one on the left Silver cuckoo no leg tag . bad type tall and skinny . Not a keeper.

    Both have nice eyes color.

    Selection at the early age .

    chooks man
     
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