International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[chickengr]

yeah you will get BUT it is not strait forward .

need to hatch a hundred at lease in the F2 progeny .

the original Birchen marans derive from the crossing you are talking about .( BCM rooster X Silver cuckoo hen )

chooks man

how many generations do you need to get birchen marans from bcm x scm?

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: A teenager cage is a good thing. I have been very lucky I put 5-8 week olds in with my big birds and they all tolerate the little ones. I do start them in a small cage in the corner for about a week and free ranging out with the flock.

 

[Chooks man]

Remember I asked you about my little mixed Olive Egger chicks (Cream Legbar X Marans hens). They all look like perfect Cuckoo Marans. They all have white skin, black shading on the front of the leg, leg feathering..... etc. How do you make a real Silver Cuckoo?

I m working on the silver cuckoo project . English silver cuckoo rooster X French Wheaten hen = I m now in the F3 third generation .

this crossing yielded a lot new variety on the F2 generation . few of them are pure Silver cuckoo 1 cockerel and 1 pullet the rest a lot cull .

Golden cuckoo is easier because of the Autossomal Red from the Golden hens ( wheaten or Black copper ).

if you cross your Silver cuckoo pullets to your BCM roosters = you will get F1 Gold/silver dark cuckoo cockerels and Black copper pullets ( carrying a silver as parasitic not as gene)

2nd Stage; many route to take depend what you want to recreate?

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

how many generations do you need to get birchen marans from bcm x scm?

you will get them on the F2 generation .

here what you get in the F2 generation ( from F1 X F1 true F2 not the false one F1 X F0 )
silver cuckoo ( pure pullets and impure cockerel S/s+
Golden cuckoo
Birchen ( pure pullet and impure cockerel S/s+)
Black copper

chooks man

 

[chickengr]

A teenager cage is a good thing. I have been very lucky I put 5-8 week olds in with my big birds and they all tolerate the little ones. I do start them in a small cage in the corner for about a week and free ranging out with the flock.

I keep my young girls away from my rapist roos. another reason is feed. recently my big girls don't take calcium (marble powder) if it has not been mixed in feed. I found some layers mash without soya and give it to them in the morning, chopped vegetables early afternoon and whole grains in the evening. and 50% grower mash, 30% whole wheat and 20% barley for the 6 teenager girls.

 

[chickengr]

you will get them on the F2 generation .

here what you get in the F2 generation ( from F1 X F1 true F2 not the false one F1 X F0 )
silver cuckoo ( pure pullets and impure cockerel S/s+
Golden cuckoo
Birchen ( pure pullet and impure cockerel S/s+)
Black copper

chooks man

I will stick to pure bcm and hopefully pure scm. too complicated to learn and I don't have that much time either. someone should preserve those beautiful birds, right?

 

[Chooks man]

I keep my young girls away from my rapist roos. another reason is feed. recently my big girls don't take calcium (marble powder) if it has not been mixed in feed. I found some layers mash without soya and give it to them in the morning, chopped vegetables early afternoon and whole grains in the evening. and 50% grower mash, 30% whole wheat and 20% barley for the 6 teenager girls.

I like the way you feed your chooks .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I will stick to pure bcm and hopefully pure scm. too complicated to learn and I don't have that much time either. someone should preserve those beautiful birds, right?

we need people like you who can keep them pure.

crossing is easy to made But the pure strain take more than 10 years of hard and organized work.

I m doing it because I have no chose plus I like to do this sort of work . I m good at it.

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: I feed chicks medicated chick feed. When I have young ones mixed with the older birds I feed "flock raiser" for all ages. When everyone is laying, I put them on laying feed. I have taken the easy route. I throw scratch in the morning and evening.

 

[chickengr]

but I forgot to feed my dogs, lol.

I will be back later as my chickens are about to retire. I have recently made some transfers and they still fight on the roosts.