International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chooks man]

I saw your post.... what happened?

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choooks man

 

[Chooks man]

wow great work ; my type of papers work . i love it.

he is a breeders for sure plus he knew what he was doing and what he was looking for,

we need people like him . with that much dedication and knowledge ,

thank for posting the diagram .

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

Chooks Man, I have been very busy the last few days. I have some very nice pullets coming up. I am going to take pictures and get them tagged just as you have suggested. It is funny because you said red on Gabby and that is exactly the color I had laid out for her. I would like to do the second test breeding option you gave me. 1 Roo and 3-4 hens for a month. I was out with the girls today and they are really looking good. You know which roo I want in the first month! LOL

 

[Choco Maran]

These are not BCM there Cochins but thought everyone would enjoy some cuteness for the day. The hen is a 8 week old blue Cochin and the chick was hatched Tuesday. She was the only so far that hatched so I wanted to put another in there with it so it would not be lonely. They have been together just about two hours now.

Both should be blue Cochins. Baby was an incubator hatched.

 

[kcrandall]

Chooks Man,

First, I want to thank you for all the information you have shared with us. In the U.S. we have been conditioned to think a certain way when it comes to selecting our breeders. So for the first time we are thinking outside of the box. While well intentioned, I believe most of the advice, critiques, etc. that we receive from breeders in the U.S. is primarily for the selection of show birds. One of the most important things I've learned from this forum is that there is a DIFFERENCE between breeder birds and show birds. Me and others on this forum want to be quality breeders first and foremost.

Second, I have noticed in several different posts that you suggest selecting breeders based on gender to express certain traits. For example, I recall that you mentioned that color comes from the cock and good combs come from the hen. I'm curious, are there any other traits that tend to be gender specific and, if so, what are those traits? I'm trying to keep good notes for future breeding practices and selection practices for future breeding stock. If I misunderstood your prior posts my apologies.

Thanks,
Keith

 

[Chooks man]

she look so proud of her self.

that cute .

chooks man

 

[Choco Maran]

I think she will be a very good mom when she and if she goes broody.

 

[bluejean55girl]

Chooks Man,

First, I want to thank you for all the information you have shared with us. In the U.S. we have been conditioned to think a certain way when it comes to selecting our breeders. So for the first time we are thinking outside of the box. While well intentioned, I believe most of the advice, critiques, etc. that we receive from breeders in the U.S. is primarily for the selection of show birds. One of the most important things I've learned from this forum is that there is a DIFFERENCE between breeder birds and show birds. Me and others on this forum want to be quality breeders first and foremost.

Second, I have noticed in several different posts that you suggest selecting breeders based on gender to express certain traits. For example, I recall that you mentioned that color comes from the cock and good combs come from the hen. I'm curious, are there any other traits that tend to be gender specific and, if so, what are those traits? I'm trying to keep good notes for future breeding practices and selection practices for future breeding stock. If I misunderstood your prior posts my apologies.

Thanks,
Keith

@Chooks man

Hi Keith, good question.

If I understand correctly, size comes from the hen. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Talking about size, would this apply to cattle also? I'm thinking that it does?

 

[chickengr]

I posed this question on a thread about pullets laying double yolk eggs and got a response that this should level out and is common. Don't know if it is the feed over here that makes it common. What I read on the thread from people that have experienced this is that it will level off in a month or so and I will get regular eggs. I just think it is odd that out of all the hens I have raised I have never had it happen until I got the Cuckoos.

I didn't feel well last night and found 30 unread posts this morning!

I don't know if gmo soy might be connected to double yolk. I read somewhere that in poor countries where people eat gmo food many women have twins. it was just an idea.

most of my mutts laid double yolkers of the beginning (1-2 months) while heritage breeds usually didn't, maybe 1 or 2 eggs.

 

[chickengr]

Okay.... Okay..... I won't say it again. I pledge allegiance to the French SOP. You have to forgive me I have been brainwashed to cull every bird for some reason or another. No one ever said.... do this and fix them. At least not until now!

before this thread I also believed that chicks should be culled. thank you for the thread! and thank you @Chooks man for joining and for your time.