International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chooks man]

very proud cockerel . Black tail red marans . very ,very rare ,
Red Storm .he think he prettier than Elvis ,,the Blue Wheaten rooster next door to him .
he knows he is rare and handsome . not shy showing in off .

good on him .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

You had to mention nice tail!

you ll get there one day .
now you know how to select .don t rush thing up .

I really liked that Splash marans cockerel.

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

cockerel look at they best when they ladies are relaxed .
here Tobambez with his ladies . well proud of him self .

well happy and relaxed flock will lead to better fertility.

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

head 10/10
the rest of his body is not as great in this photo .look triangular to me not long and stretchy ( rectangular type . more like a brick on it side )
does he always hold him self like that ?

the back of the marans Rooster should be long ,flat ,wide all the way and tilted a little at the back .

chooks man

I have been reading and rereading APA, French and Australian SOPs searching for answers to my questions about tails. Something that I read stuck in my mind, I recognized the body shape a long time ago when I knew much less than I do now but what I read made me understand the significance of it and why it is so hard to grasp. The Marans signature besides egg color is his shape. We all see pretty roosters, head held high, beautiful colors, beautiful tail feathers but that is not a Marans.

This is the ideal.

These diagrams help explain. I like Chooks mans explanation of a brick on its side. You don't want a little valley between the head and tail. You want a long gentle slope.
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Yes

 

[Red Banks]

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very proud cockerel . Black tail red marans . very ,very rare ,
Red Storm .he think he prettier than Elvis ,,the Blue Wheaten rooster next door to him .
he knows he is rare and handsome . not shy showing in off .

good on him .

chooks man

He is right..... he is a beauty. How do I get Black Birchens from my birds?

 

[Red Banks]

you ll get there one day .
now you know how to select .don t rush thing up .

I really liked that Splash marans cockerel.

chooks man

He was just as solid as Antonio, very beautiful and correct.

 

[Red Banks]

Another thing I look at is a flat chest. I know that is NOT going to give me the rectangular body.

 

[Red Banks]

cockerel look at they best when they ladies are relaxed .
here Tobambez with his ladies . well proud of him self .
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well happy and relaxed flock will lead to better fertility.

chooks man

You posted the ideal to go along with my post..... Tobambez..... right?

 

[Chooks man]

He is right..... he is a beauty. How do I get Black Birchens from my birds?

I tell you how to get a black Birchen from your birds .play some music to them when they are incubating .hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
I though you gave up on them and got ready of your silver cuckoo hens . they where the key to your project plus few years of breeding and selecting .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

You posted the ideal to go along with my post..... Tobambez..... right?

Tobambezi has the ideal marans body type .well proportioned . every part of his body is well put together .
I find him a little taller on his feet .
need him for the Blue copper hens .they are giving me chooks with very short legs .too short . specially Bordeau and Beatrice .

Body type will score 40 point more than any other trait .if we showing

chooks man