It’s been 47 hours since noticed internal pip. Is it time to assist??? HELP!

[AmyA248]

Is that one vein bleeding or is that just the picture ?
If it’s bleeding you need ti get it stopped
I use a Q tip ( dry ) apply pressure to the vein
Usually stops pretty easy

It’s not bleeding at all. I have not seen any blood.
Will he be ok like this?

Have I killed this baby???

I was told to assist at this point, (over 48 hours) but I shouldn’t have. And now I’m terrified.
Can he survive and continue getting ready in this state?

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

I agree patience is key right now. Just means not ready yet and needs more time. I once had a lone gosling that pipped wrong end that I had to help out. Every time I looked there was blood and I thought I’d lost him but he was fine in the end. Try not to worry, and I know easier said than done

 

[BelovedBirds]

It’s not bleeding at all. I have not seen any blood.
Will he be ok like this?

Have I killed this baby???

I was told to assist at this point, (over 48 hours) but I shouldn’t have. And now I’m terrified.
Can he survive and continue getting ready in this state?

You haven't killed him!
I know it's really stressful, especially at this stage, and especially right after such an upsetting loss

But this baby has a very good chance! It isn't like with the past baby, this one is able to breathe well, while he gets ready to hatch out. There's no very big concern at this point, he should be able to absorb. I have my fingers crossed for him

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

It’s not bleeding at all. I have not seen any blood.
Will he be ok like this?

Have I killed this baby???

I was told to assist at this point, (over 48 hours) but I shouldn’t have. And now I’m terrified.
Can he survive and continue getting ready in this state?

No you needed to get his beak to the hole
What you did was exactly what needed to be done
He is perfectly fine like that
He can get air and absorb
You didn’t cause him any harm
You saved him as he never would have external pip on his own
He will need a full assist but not till he is fully absorbed

 

[AmyA248]

I agree patience is key right now. Just means not ready yet and needs more time. I once had a lone gosling that pipped wrong end that I had to help out. Every time I looked there was blood and I thought I’d lost him but he was fine in the end. Try not to worry, and I know easier said than done

Thank you for your kindness and support.

Obviously I’m a newbie at this and I did everything by the book, so after the 24 hours passed I made the safety hole, then after 48 hours with no progress I was told to chip away at the shell of the air cell. So I read the article and did exactly as told. But as you said he’s not ready.

My main concern is can he carry on like this or is he going to die?
He is breathing and appears comfortable aside from peeping, but he’s not fighting to get out thankfully.

As I mentioned he is a Muscovy and I was told that the doesn’t need as high of humidity then other water fowl. So at this point what do you recommend that I have the humidity at?
I need to do everything I possibly can to save this baby, as we just lost our first one this past week.
Her yolk sac was completely unabsorbed and she never piped, I did an eggtopsy to try to see why she passed away and to get some other options.
I actually sent the photos to my friends brother who is a vet, and he said that she never would have lived if she had indeed hatched because he said he could see her organs through her tummy.
It was just awful seeing that precious baby who never had a chance.

I’m including a photo. This is why I’m so terrified right now…

Thank you again for your help.

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

He can carry on like he is. You haven’t hurt him by opening the air cell more
You needed to get his beak to be by the opening
This helps him not to panic trying to open the egg
Now he can relax and absorb
This is my baby hope
Her egg stayed like this for a day
Her pic after she hatched and a pic this summer
She is now over a year old and very healthy girl
She is the middle chocolate girl

 

[AmyA248]

No you needed to get his beak to the hole
What you did was exactly what needed to be done
He is perfectly fine like that
He can get air and absorb
You didn’t cause him any harm
You saved him as he never would have external pip on his own
He will need a full assist but not till he is fully absorbed

Oh my goodness! THANK YOU!!!!

So he wouldn’t have externally piped on his own? How can you tell? (For my knowledge in learning in the future)

I’m washed with a huge sense of relief right now, but I’m going to be a wreck until he is hatched and healthy.

So he will need a full assist? He will not hatch on his own?
Do you know what happened and why he won’t be able to hatch?
And how will I know when he is absorbed and when it’s time to assist?

I’m so sorry for all the questions I’m burdening you with, but I must do all I can to save him.
I sincerely hope that you don’t mind.

Blessings.

 

[HeatherKellyB]

It’s not bleeding at all. I have not seen any blood.
Will he be ok like this?

Have I killed this baby???

I was told to assist at this point, (over 48 hours) but I shouldn’t have. And now I’m terrified.
Can he survive and continue getting ready in this state

That's the veins that I was talking about. With ducks, I never really put them on a time frame, until zipping begins. They just take so long to hatch. As long as he's not actively bleeding, what you've done so far, shouldn't be fatal. Even if there was active bleeding, death isn't guaranteed. It's difficult to keep calm at this point, I understand. If I'm not mistaken, you're a woman that prays. My advice at this point would be to take a deep breath and spend some time in prayer to help soothe yourself. Even after many assists, I still get anxious, nervous and constantly second guessing myself. You're doing just fine My friend doesn't use anything except for water to keep the membrane moistened. So whatever you use, make sure it doesn't get near the ducklings nares. Since you've got that humidity bumped up, that should help. I oftentimes use a sponge with warm water, set in the incubator. This does an incredible job in helping humidity. Are you closing the incubator while you work on the egg? That helps keep things a little warmer. I oftentimes work with a heat lamp nearby, to keep things warm while it's out of the incubator.

 

[AmyA248]

He can carry on like he is. You haven’t hurt him by opening the air cell more
You needed to get his beak to be by the opening
This helps him not to panic trying to open the egg
Now he can relax and absorb
This is my baby hope
Her egg stayed like this for a day
Her pic after she hatched and a pic this summer
She is now over a year old and very healthy girl
She is the middle chocolate girl

Ohhhh! How precious!!!

I’m very relieved to hear I didn’t seal his fate by opening the egg, I almost got sick thinking I had killed this little one.

How long do you think he will stay this way and finish absorbing?
I was told he will need a full assist when he is ready because he can’t hatch on his own.
How will I know when he’s absorbed and ready though?

I’m telling you what, everyone here is so wonderful and kind! I honestly don’t know what I’d do without all of you wonderful and caring people! I honestly feel blessed.

 

[Farmgirl283420]

Hi Amy I saw your post and just had to check it out! First of all sorry for the loss of your other little duck I was really rooting for her and the pics made me sick with sadness and second of all I hope this little duck makes it I will be praying for her keep us updated please!