i'm using an LG still air. i turned twice daily by hand. humidity ran 30%-40% than i raised it to ~60% at the end. i kept the temp around 102* (as best as i could with an LG) had a few temp spikes up and down during incubation. i ended up with three chicks the first time and 9 the second (out of a dozen each) the first batch were from ebay, and most were either not fertile or scrambled in shipping. the LG is ok if you like fiddling with something. i hate the the temp does not stay set no matter what you do. it works in a pinch though.