Thanks PD...Oddly enough I had cleared his breathing area because he pipped mid egg and I thought he was dead. Well, when I put antibiotic on his liner it still looked too vascular to go any further. I put him back in a wet papertowel...and checked on him all the time. Bedtime was about 9 hours later and his veins looked good...he was movin around and I decided to let him rest for the night and I would crack him out around 5 am when I got up. Well, I heard some loud chirping around 3 am and i found him already hatched out! So, he did it on his own. He was the only orp chick that I had with some silkies in the mini. The silkies started hatching right at 21 days.