Chicken Coach has some very nice birds !Thank you for posting this bnjrob.i agree with you 100% .I was going to stop going to this post because all opinions and very few facts.I don't argue with people on there opinions on the internet.What's the point,and no one wins.I love my javas and have had them for many years.The man i got them from has had them for 40 years.I have some real good javas and some sorry ones too. That's why we cull and improve. I have all colors of them and they are some of my best sellers.It's great to see other people happy to get them and help keep the breed alive.Lets all keep going and try to help each other.