Java Thread

[GoodLuckCharlie!]

Hi Java fans,
I have 1 Mottled Java and 1 Black Java-very sweet birds who don't leave each other's sides. I was wondering if there are any Black and Mottled Java hatching eggs out for buying this time of year. Anyone selling them? Is it better to buy them in the spring or anytime? I was just wondering since in the springtime is when hatching eggs and peeps usually sell more. Thanks!

 

[saladin]

Generally speaking you are not going to find any right now because birds are in or just finishing up the moult. Some folks do hatch in the fall but not very many as raising the chicks is more difficult.

 

[GoodLuckCharlie!]

Thanks I see

Darn, I just got my new incubator and wanted to have fun using it...I will be patient

 

[broken08]

hello all,
First time chicken keeper here. I have 12 Javas, 3 leghorns. Mostly white but with 2 black, 2 auburn. They are about 4 months right now.

With winter on the way I just hope I can keep them warm and safe!

How do they do in the cold? How warm do i need to keep the coop?

 

[saladin]

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Where are you from? That makes all the difference in the answer to your questions.

 

[Chickielady]

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Hello once again Saladin~~~~~~~
The birds photos I posted at 734 are indeed Monte Babies

They are fantastic birds, mellow and extremely good at grazing, and seldom do I fill their feeder.
Their feeder does have 20% Flockraiser in it, but the birds prefer the grasses & seed heads wild in their large pen.
They are quiet, well behaved, and never did I have one so much as peck vents as chicks.
they seem respectful and intelligent and NON HYPER from day one.
We can also mention how good their lines are , even as started birds, and coloration is excellent!
Not one stray off color feather!
Their legs are black!
Their soles are bright yellow!
I also want to mention that, Monte Bowen IS THE JAVA GURU!!!!!!!!!!
He has supplied the heritage breed to even Urch!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone interested in Javas need to pay extreme attention to Monte.
Monte also hates the many chicken forums that are about nowdays, just as alot of older chicken breeders do.
But he is a wonderful person, cantankerous yes......but he makes me smile daily with e-mails.
Monte is my friend.

 

[Chickielady]

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Where are you from? That makes all the difference in the answer to your questions.

As Saladin has said, where you live makes all the difference in what birds will do well where you live.
Standard comb birds, of any breed, can be harmed by freezing temps, unless they are enclosed & heated.
That makes them not "weaker" but the comb upright can be frostbiten, and when it does, you will have to cut it off, and cauterize it as Gamebird raisers do.
If you plan on insulating your coops, and applying heat lamps when the temps dip below 20 F for example, then you can raise whatever you like.
I believe it is wise to raise birds (especially heritage breeds) where they thrive, with forage they were designed to thrive on.
Our world now, with """GLOBALISATION""" is not one I agree upon, where anyone can import or buy( any bird animal) to any state...like Polar Bears in San Diego~~~~~~~~
It is wrong, and done for our own wishes.
But the animal suffers.
I have temperate climes here, and I also have clay soil so slippery you can not walk but for gum boots with cleats.
The result is, no more feather shanked & toes breeds such as my Brahmas and Cochins.
The moral of the story is:
Look at the breed, look at where you live, your soil, your temps...and narrow your choices down.
(No more cutting giant clay dingle-berries off the LF Cochins, for me!

 

[Gallusfarm]

Hi everyone, a friend of mine has mottled javas. She keeps asking me about the quality and I have no idea. I told her I'd ask the experts here. Feedback will be much appreciated!!!!! She's planning on showing them this fall. They are right at 7 months old.

 

[TACEYPERKINS]

Hey Gallusfarm- Where did your friend get her birds? How old are they?
I would say it is hard to tell from the pictures really what to say. But, I would show them anyway. A show judge will be able to tell you exactly what is wrong or right with them. As long as they don't have any DQ they will be fine. Some of the DQ's are yellow or red in the plummage, no yellow on the bottom of the feet and then there are more general DQ's like side sprigs, etc. But for a mottled Java this is what they will be looking for. The judge will look at body type first, then things like head, wings, back and tail. And at the very end will look at the color. It looks like her birds are decent, I can see some things, but no Java is perfect. They are rare and not alot of people are breeding them. Which means that this breed is a work in progress. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually place when they show. Odds are there won't be that many Javas, if any, there. Remember, a judge, will judge them aginst the SOP, and other Javas there. If there are no other Javas, a not so great Java can actually place first. So take the information and breed to make them better. The information is the best tool to have, that is why it is imperative to also have the SOP book to know what you are needing to breed toward. One of my sugestions is to start with a club, to get more information about the breed. And you could talk to more people that are interested in the same goals and may have more experience. I am the V.P. for the Java Breeders of America. We are a young club, just starting out. But we have alot of great info, including the SOP for the Java, on our website.Tell her to contact me if she likes, my info is on the club website, on the breeders list. ~ Tacey

 

[saladin]

They look to be good healthy birds.

Read the article I placed in a link at the top of the page where you posted the birds.

I hope the cockerel's tail fills in better, it should.

None of the birds have enough mottling, imo, except the last two. However, the last two look to be a bit smaller. The Blacks are generally larger for whatever reason. The cockerel looks to be a result of a black x mottled breeding; which is just fine.

I'd breed that cockerel to those two pullets on the bottom.