Jungle fowl hatching thread

[Chickie friend]

A chick hatched! I've forgotten how tiny they are! its so tiny!!

 

[Chickie friend]

Would this feed be ok? I forgot to order some until now

https://www.amazon.com/Manna-Pro-Ga...keywords=game+bird+feed&qid=1608656787&sr=8-2

 

[MysteryChicken]

Hi, I bought some red jungle fowl hybrid eggs from someone on eBay after making a thread without success. Turns out the seller @Florida Bullfrog is on byc. So I've got 7 eggs that arrived a while ago. Recently (today) i pulled out 3 that had wobbly air cells and didn't develop. I'm going to post updates and chicks pictures hopefully!

I'm gonna be ordering some from him this spring.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

Would this feed be ok? I forgot to order some until now

https://www.amazon.com/Manna-Pro-Ga...keywords=game+bird+feed&qid=1608656787&sr=8-2

Should be just fine. Hopefully you’ll get more chicks. They burn through feed fast. If you have a Tractor Supply nearby, they carry 30% gamebird starter at 30% protein in a 40lb. I currently have 20 chicks I’m raising in an outdoor brooder and they’re burning right through it.

 

[MysteryChicken]

One reason I wanna have more, is because they're very pretty, & I need a rooster of this type.
My Red JungleFowl hybrids.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

One reason I wanna have more, is because they're very pretty, & I need a rooster of this type.
My Red JungleFowl hybrids.
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Oooohhh, you have a spurred hen. I like it. I’d love to breed that trait into mine. So far I haven’t seen it in mine.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Oooohhh, you have a spurred hen. I like it. I’d love to breed that trait into mine. So far I haven’t seen it in mine.

Yep, she's my only one with a spur, & I like it too.

Really? Hopefully you can get some with spurs. Mine are crossed with American Games.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I wish I knew their JungleFowl to Gamefowl ratio. They seem to be 50/50 in appearance to me.

 

[BleuSaphir]

I love jungle fowl with their natural wild look.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

I wish I knew their JungleFowl to Gamefowl ratio. They seem to be 50/50 in appearance to me.

I wish I knew too. In truth I do not know. I obtained them off farm in central Florida and the farmer kept redirecting my questions or otherwise ignoring me every time I asked. He sold them as junglefowl, I thought they were actually games and weren’t JF at all, but either way they were close enough to the Cracker birds I remembered and the price was reasonable I didn’t complain. Over time, different people have offered opposite opinions as to what they are. Some people, mostly of SE Asian background, opine they’re 50/50 JF. Locals around me think they’re the Florida games, although they’ve never heard if a JF as it is. I think there was a chance the farmer got nervous when I started talking about games because of the legal implications in selling them to the wrong person for the wrong reason.

I’ve been selecting them for a JF appearence, but I just as easily could have selected them for an American gamefowl appearance. My initial brood cocks all looked different than each other as if not closely related and some tracked more towards American game, others more to JF, and the subsequent generations look and act more and more junglefowl like. Recently one of my culls even started exhibiting the short crow of a JF and I suspect he’ll eclipse. I gave him away instead of killing him so I’ll be able to study him as he continues to mature.

So that they have JF in them, I have no doubt. Its a question of how much and what else is there.

I’m now if the opinion there are strong links between the Florida Cracker landrace, the Blueface strain of American gamefowl, and American game bantams. I think they all mostly came from junglefowl/American game hybrids found in the south early 1900s and are best typified by the Blueface American gamefowl of today. I’ve seen too much evidence in historic writings that indicate people thought they had domesticated JF in the South prior to the 1950s. Whether they’re right or not isn’t as important as the fact they had birds they mistook at JF. Possibly American games of the wild phenotype like some of the Hatches that got more wild-like when they reproduced independent of selection for cockfighting. Whatever those birds were, I think they fathered a few different breeds or bloodlines.

As a side note, its highly likely Blueface of today are not the actual Blueface that the original breeder created in the early 1900s, where there is a degree of evidence he never actually let the real bloodline out of his care.