Karma -- Thoughts?

[easttxchick]

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I know you didn't ask me, so you don't have to read this if you don't want to

I think that the Original Sin was a dang good excuse for all of humanity to be able to do pretty much what they darn well pleased and STILL get into heaven, if that's what you believe. I just can't find it in myself to believe that a newborn has done anything wrong.

I agree. I like the confession thing. Do anything you want and go to confession. For a few Hail Mary's you can get away with murder. Did you ever read Pillars of the Earth? the King and the Dukes would kill people needlessly and would get redemption from the local Bishop in exchange for money donations. I've always been amazed at what people will do because of their fear of what happens after death.

I wonder what would happen to humanity if somehow the entire World found out that there was no God. No nothing. We are just worm food. Do you think everyone would just go berzerk?

If I'm wrong, what do I have to lose?

 

[Marshmallow Man]

Kids are the best investment anyone can make. I have no idea what you do, but if you help kids you're great in my book. Sounds like you foster. If you do, you know that the government people are a royal pain quite often. However they are saints. They care about those kids and they do the job for close to nothing. They are some of the first to go when there are budget problems. I couldn't even imagine having to go to a parents house and prying a screming 3 year old that wants their Mommy, even though she just put their hand on a hot burner because they peed their pants. That's a thankless job.

Good for you though.

 

[gogoalie]

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Pardon me? I said I didn't believe in Karma, meaning the Hindu understanding of it. I've read through the entire Bible, there's nothing about an endless cycle of death and rebirth. There is one "rebirth." Your deed certainly affect the next life, or "afterlife," but it's not Karma in the Hindu understanding.

Also, thank you for assuming that I'm ignorant.

I have studied other religions, but not ultra in-depth. Too busy studying US history and economics.

Still, I understand Christianity and how it differs from other religions quite well.

Please forgive me, I posted my response only after reading your first response...& Karma isn't all 'bout "life & death, & rebirhth" but how you act & what your actions will do in not only this world (which has the greatest effect, if you believe as I do) & in the afterlife (which I don't believe in, in the tradional Xtian sense).

"There is one "rebirth." Your deed certainly affect the next life, or "afterlife," but it's not Karma in the Hindu understanding." One 'rebirth'? I thought there was plenty of rebirth, hence the refrence to "born again" Xtians? (don't you find it odd that the "one rebirth" takes place in the SPRING time, when many a Pagan believed in the "rebirth" of plants & animals after a long winter?) & I always was taught that it's not yer deeds that get you into heaven, but the gift of the Grace o' God...however, that's not to say that the deeds of the whole doesn't reflect upon the whole of the church, which the deeds of the many, do indeed reflect on the whole church. What is the chruch worth, if the parishoners don't practice what's preached? (See the Karma in it?)

Karma certainly predates Hinduism...it's just that Hinduism, put it in practical & literal terms, that others could understand...codified, if you will...

Two things: US History, read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" & then read "Wasichu, & the continuing 100 years war", too see how the economy of the US thrived off Native lands...good luck...

 

[LovinMyPeeps]

A wiccan and a nun walked into a bar... no really... I'm a wiccan and my best friend is devout catholic studying to be a nun. I concur. You can have ANY belief, just don't try to MAKE me believe as you do, I'll listen to any good argument until the cows come home. As for KARMA? Yah? She's the monkey on my back. I am a firm believer that "what comes around, goes around" I try very hard to make sure I'm paying it forward. I simply want to be a "good human being". I dont know if we recycle or not, as far as I'm concerned I have NO control over it in any direction so why worry about it? I would rather spend my time being happy and making those around me feel the same way.

Here you go boyd, this is to make you smile

 

[Boyd]

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We do fostering for teens, teen moms, and kids that are stuck in limbo till they have a perm. adoptive plan in place. Although I know the folks within the state and fed agencies are angels i hate the endless bogus investigations.

 

[Organics North]

Wow what deep and wonderful thoughts you all have...!!
Sure do love the diversity of "chicken people"

Boyd,
For what it is worth... I think you have great "karma" (However one defines it)...

I never read the book, but it seems to me the concept of living in the "now" has some merits..

Be well
ON

 

[Marshmallow Man]

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We do fostering for teens, teen moms, and kids that are stuck in limbo till they have a perm. adoptive plan in place. Although I know the folks within the state and fed agencies are angels i hate the endless bogus investigations.

We fostered for 11 years. I drew a smiley face on a kids hand and got investigated because the parent complained. They could get a lot more accomplished without the bogus investigations. Look what happens on the very rare occasion when a foster parent abuses a child in their care. It's on the news for days.

 

[Whispering Winds]

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My thoughts exactly. I said from day one that he needed to be right in there along side her, because he caused that whole tragedy with his ignorant lofty actions.

 

[Q9]

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Not true. People go to Heaven or Hell based on whether they accept Christ as their Savior or not. Deeds or "generic karma" only determine the degree of reward or punishment.

That's the theory. Nobody has ever lived to tell about it. So it remains a theory. That's what I was told during my time as a Christian.

It's also explicitly stated in the Bible. Nothing theoretical about it. Also, you CAN go to a place you don't believe in. Consider yourselves warned.

Wolfwoman, you raise an excellent question. There is a HUGE theological debate about it, with tons of literature. I'm still "on the fence" about it myself. I WOULD answer your question, or attempt to, but I'm no theologian, I'm just an average Joe when it comes to theology. I specialize in history.

Original sin, by the way, is not an excuse at all. It's a condemnation of all mankind. There's only one way to escape what is otherwise a one-way ticket to Hell, which is through repenting of your sins and confessing Christ is Lord.

 

[Wolfwoman]

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No, thank you

I still think it immoral, unethical and insane that a newborn has sin. No matter HOW you explain it.

We can always debate, but until that day, many of us won't know. But in the meantime, it is FUN debating, as long as you can debate with the right people!