LA-200 DOSING orally

[Carpetlady2]

Background...just lost a 2 month old spitzhauben last night. I have a mixed age flock and some Cornish cross. The meaties literally were sleeping in the poop board face first in poop. I had tried every way possible to stop this to no avail. Long story short they all have become sick (lost 2 have them isolated) with a resp. Infection of some sort. They go this evening to butcher. One of my spitzhaubens started sneezing and gasping for air yesterday. I isolated her, her hatch mate and a very tiny 5 month old welsummer who despite all odds is still alive. I isolated them all together as I assumed since they spend all day every day together they too were exposed. And I was correct the other spitzhauben started sneezing last night Shortly after I lost the other. I have tetracycline in water but not sure it’s enough I wanted to grab something I can actually administer and know they are getting enough. From a poultry med website it says 1/2 to 1/4 cc (inject) then again 2-4 days...for orally it said just administer more, more often. So I assume this dose is for a full size chicken which they aren’t. They are about a lb, lb and a half (plan to weigh before administering. I CANNOT stomach using a needle and was hoping to find an actual oral dose by weight. Thank you in advance for any info you may have.

 

[RoosChickens]

Let us know how it works out.

I send every bird that died of unknown causes to the lab. That way, I don't wipe out my flock.
I also never treat prophylactically for an unknown disease. That's how superbugs are created.

How much does it cost to send your bird to the lab for necropsy?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

How much does it cost to send your bird to the lab for necropsy?

Welcome To BYC

To find out how much it costs, contact your state lab. Each state has their own pricing/fee schedules. You can look up your lab here
https://www.metzerfarms.com/poultry-labs.html

 

[Ajoy1955]

I unfortunately am gone from home 12 hours a day 6 days a week. My husband does not tend chickens and is disabled. Sending for a necropsy really isn’t in my budget nor my “schedule” if u will. I literally just work and work. It’s not going to work out at all if I can’t find a proper dose for orally rather than “more and more often”. I wish I could just send off every bird that dies. I’m not going in blindly on this. I’ve dealt with MG last year. This is the same symptoms. i Just really cannot remix the water all day as I’m here....at work. I want to make sure the remaining 2 concerns are getting the proper dosage. Hence the reason I did my research till wee hours of the morning came up with 2 different ones that I can give orally but could not find proper dosage. Figured I’d ask here to see if anyone would know. I am not a person to throw meds in the mix blindly ...come to think of it last time I had MG I also had meaties. I swore to never do Cornish cross again until my daughter wanted to do market birds for 4h. But no market for small animals bc of covid. So here we r raising meat birds we swore never to do again lol personally I like the rangers as they roost and do not lay face first in poop. I am by no way looking for an answer to blindly throw meds at my chickens. It just seems no one really knows the actual dose except 1cc oral as well as 1cc inject. i love this group and mostly very helpful except this one time lol the list of meds I found on here last night even said orally and inject. I could have went with other antibiotics however with having MG last year with the same symptoms pretty sure like 99% that’s what it is.

I heard that once you have MG in the flock, there is no cure and the flock you have will need to be isolated from any new chickens…(which means no more new chickens ) all you can do is just maintain the flock you have now with antibiotics to ease the symptoms when they are sick.. I currently have two recently purchased pullets that have come down with a respiratory infection.. I started treating with VetRx , oregano oil, and rooster booster, not getting better , but not getting worse, so I decided to start on LA-200.. my manager at Tractor Supply said to add 2cc of LA-200 per gallon of water… going to start this in the morning.. going to use for 3 days.. then see if there is an improvement

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I heard that once you have MG in the flock, there is no cure and the flock you have will need to be isolated from any new chickens…(which means no more new chickens ) all you can do is just maintain the flock you have now with antibiotics to ease the symptoms when they are sick.. I currently have two recently purchased pullets that have come down with a respiratory infection.. I started treating with VetRx , oregano oil, and rooster booster, not getting better , but not getting worse, so I decided to start on LA-200.. my manager at Tractor Supply said to add 2cc of LA-200 per gallon of water… going to start this in the morning.. going to use for 3 days.. then see if there is an improvement

I'm not trying to be offensive - just being real, but how many years of vet school does your TS manager have under his/her belt?
If I was having a significant health issue in my flock and I wasn't sure in my own mind how to treat it, I wouldn't seek out the advice of a feed store employee.

I caution that most people don't comprehend the potential hazard created by prophylactically using antibiotics in farm animals.

 

[Ajoy1955]

I'm not trying to be offensive - just being real, but how many years of vet school does your TS manager have under his/her belt?
If I was having a significant health issue in my flock and I wasn't sure in my own mind how to treat it, I wouldn't seek out the advice of a feed store employee.

I caution that most people don't comprehend the potential hazard created by prophylactically using antibiotics in farm animals.

Sometimes experience is more valuable than a degree, we have no Avian vets within reasonable travel distance, and the manager has 60 chickens of her own…. So sometimes experience is worth it’s weight in gold!

 

[Duck2025]

What is the disease you are treating?

Bumble foot

 

[Ajoy1955]

Bumble foot

At the time I was treating a respiratory illness, but ended up using Tiagard and it cleared it right up

 

[Xdash]

I have used LA 200 orally and injections. Orally I do 1 ml for average 5 pound chicken. I pull it out of bottle with syringe, squirt it on bits of bread, add a dab of sugar or apple butter for taste...and feed it to the bird.
While it IS broad spectrum...some ailments it won't cure. But you know that.
I too would give it a try if that's what I had available.

I do feel that 1 injection into the breast every 3 days is much easier than orally. Just like when we get sick...injections are the quickest most direct mode of dosing meds.

Good Luck with them!

Finally someone with a real answer !!!
How many times a day and for how many days ??