La Fleche Thread ~ PIC of my Black La Fleche

I would think not. There is tendency in La Fleche to show some red. As Craig Russel would say, they're showing their history. When we were working with La Fleche, every so many La Fleche would show a fair amount of rustiness even in their chick down.

What we witness in this video is the effect of sustained selection over multiple generations for specific traits. This is what these fowl should be. I would imagine, like Reese' Barred Plymouth Rock strain, that these La Fleche represent a strain that has undergone on-going selection without hiatus.

Our birds can return to this, but it will require knowledge mixed with discipline. The ALBC website has put together excellent resources. Robert "Bob" Blosl has been highly proactive on these thread supporting heritage breeds and offering literature to educate. One of these works, The Call of the Hen, is an excellent source, and is obviously one of the foundational texts upon which the ALBC establihes their method. The Call of the Hen is available for free on Google Books.

The great thing about this is that one doesn't have to maintain dozens and dozens of breeders to develop a strain like this. However, one does need to hatch heavily in order to work within the law of averages. Following the ALBC method, one is going to cull hard at eight weeks. It doesn't really cost a lot to raise chicks up to this point. If one's goal is to grow out 30-50 chicks, one can hatch 200 or more and then cull down to 30-50 at eight weeks. This helps to ensure the probability of having a larger number of chicks that attain a minimum weight. Remebering that every year is a new chicken generation, it five generations one can seriously impact weight, which, through continuous selection, is moulded into shape, or type.

These La Fleche are outstanding, but they exude the effects of commitment and specialization. I don't know about pounding out moral imperatives, but it is wise to have an idea as to where one is going. Many people want to choose mixed flocks, but they're never going to have birds of this caliber. Subsequently, one could say that birds of this caliber cannot exist unless one does not maintain mixed flocks, but specializes, instead. This is not a moral statement, rather, a directional observation. In NH, if I go north, I arrive in Quebec; if I go south, I arrive in Massachusetts. There's no moral imperative here, but I can kick and scream all I'd like, but if I'm heading North, I'm not going to get to Boston. If we maintain mixed flocks and are unwilling to make a commitment to a breed, if we do not follow that Standard and cull hard for vigor and productivity, we simply won't get there. If we do, we shall.

In ten years:
A) We won't have chickens.
B) We'll still have the same run of the mill, ho-hum birds.
C) We'll have jump started and renewed a fantastic breed that, through our administrations, is able to go forward for the enjoyment and nourishment of another generation.

Remember, La Fleche are for caponizing. The fowl in this video show us this clearly.
 
Yellow, You are a source of wonderful information. I am so thankful of your advice. I am in the middle of hatching and hatching and hatching and I am keeping several breeds. I understand this isn't a moral issue for you but alas, if it isn't fun to do, why pursue it? I'm pretty sure that moving the breed forward is all about numbers and culling and culling... Law of 10 makes perfect sense. I am a strong believer that if we don't have folks committed to promoting the breeds we are going to be in serious trouble. I'm dedicated to doing my part. I looked up the book on Google... I can't wait to read...

Thanks again for your support!
 
My pleasure, and I love reading of everyone's adventures. And was sinecere when I was saying that I was presenting no moral imperative.

In my other hat, I'm a language and literature scholar. I work in several different languages on specific themes. This makes me a generalist. Though I am very strong in certain aspects of Italian literature, there are entire periods about which I know comparatively little. Were I to focus on Itaian literature exclusively, those lacunae wouldn't be there. There are rewards for being a generalist and also for being a specialist. When I make statements about specializing, its not to thrust it down everyone's neck but rather to draw attention to the benefits of specialization so that they are considered, for my general impression has been that we tend toward generalization in poultry. There are places one cannot get without specialization, but specialization tends to make one less flexible and maybe a bit dogmatic. Generalization, by sheer definition, is less profound, and there will be entire layers left undiscovered. Still, generalists tend to be more flexible and less dogmatic.
 
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Ok guys, it's been long enough without any activity, it is time to get conversation going again about our La Fleche.

I have a question. As you may know from my past posting, I have decided to cross my Sandhill La Fleche with my really awesome Delawares and have done so VERY successfully as I have between 100 to 150 chicks at the moment with many more on the way. What I'm needing to know is should I keep a cross rooster to breed to full blooded La Fleche hens or would I be better off breeding a full blooded La Fleche Rooster to the cross hens?

Here are a couple things that cause me to ponder...

1. I want the rooster's beautiful horn looking comb. The crosses of course, won't likely have this. I may be wrong though and can pick a cross male who has a good comb.

2. The hens of the La Fleche lay white oblong but big eggs while the hens of the Delaware lay bigger brown eggs. I will be culling my chickens prior to their laying time since I have no intention of keeping 150 chickens for long!!! The egg color of the crosses will likely be screwed up.

I have both full blooded La Fleche as well as the crosses so I have plenty choices. What are your thoughts on this?

Look forward to the debate and really hope we have one cause I need some feedback.

Dave
 

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