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So, I preface this post with this: I am not trying to offend anyone. This is strictly for the sake of discussion and betterment of the breed.

Why is there such a frenzy about new colors and varieties all over? What is the purpose of adding new varieties to existing breeds? How does adding new varieties actually benefit the breed?

I will give my opinions as answers to these questions. Again, I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here. Just trying to make everyone think a little more.

Why is there such a frenzy about new colors and varieties all over? Well, I think lots of people have a hard time working on what someone else started and also lack the staying power to breed poultry long term. New colors and varieties are kind of a product of our instant culture.

What is the purpose of adding new varieties to existing breeds? Maybe these varieties get a few more people interested, usually temporarily in a breed or even in poultry in general. Unfortunately, this interest goes up until the project actually gets difficult. Then most people give it up and, either go back to black and white chickens, or get out of poultry all together.

So, how does adding new varieties actually benefit the breed? My opinion is that it doesn't. Any progress made in improvement to the that variety is usually short-lived. A variety becomes respectable (very rarely does it get better than that), but as a breeder works with a new variety, the old varieties (usually black and white) keep improving. A breeder can make quite a lot of progress on a new variety and still be very far behind good-enough-to-win. Generally interest in new varieties is very cyclical and trendy. The varieties start strong and end fast (typical "flash in the pan"). My opinion is that what happens is this: new breeders get a new variety, hoping be the one that gets it really going. When this becomes obviously impossible or unachievable, most people give up. Many of these varieties even become standardized. Unfortunately, when the variety falls to the wayside, all the resources used on them became de facto wasted resources. I think that if people would focus more on the existing varieties, the breed would move forward as a whole, not just in broken, halting steps. As I see it, there are lots of existing varieties that need tons of work! Such as partridge, golden and silver-laced, brown and even sometimes blacks and whites, blues and buffs. Why not focus on these beautiful varieties? There are still plenty of chickens to cull even with existing colors
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While I admire anyone who can actually make a new variety look good, I admire much more the person that can take an existing variety that really needs help and preserve and perfect that variety. My challenge to the poultry world: If you're going to work on a new variety, work on an old one that needs help at the same time!
 
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I understand what your saying.. I have bred Italian greyhounds for 15 years and breeders keep wanting them smaller smaller and smaller.. I would get so frustrated.. they are already a TOY breed, they are 3 thousand years old.. stop messing with them,, leave then the correct size and healthy.. of course everyone want the Paris Hilton toy dog in the purse.. so they figure make a Italian greyhound the size of a chihuahua, ahhh...

I do like the original standards, and the original colors .. but I must admit that I have a golden barred roo. who I think is just fantastic to look at and I really like the blue's.. so maybe Im just as bad.. hope not ... I do agree that if you start a project that you must be able to see it thru for many generations to come without deluting the standards ...

blessed be have a great day )O(
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i have solid blue polish cuckoo polish that just nice as any other polish i have showgirls that can produce silkie babies that can compete im all about the aovs
 
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They are NOT varieties at all until you follow all the requirements to get a variety recognized. Stuff like 5 breeders breeding for 5 years. A qualification meet of enough birds of good enough quality from enough breeders to become recognized. What you are talking about are attractive MUTTS. You can raise, show, and love them but until you do ALL the work they are not varieties.
 
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When your interest in the color varieties exceeds your interest in breed type the road to nowhere is in front of you.

I much admire the sucessful breeders who breed top quality birds in common colors to a high degree of perfection AND have a few of the obscure colors. They are the ones who will perfect the less common colors.

A person who did not cut their teeth breeding top birds in the common colors will NEVER make a good type bird starting out with two years experience and breeding gold laced whatever. And you far dam certain can't breed a good color partridge Cochin, Brahma (gawd forbid) or Chantecler unless you can breed a good white Cochin (and a good Partridge Wyandotte for that matter.)
 
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