Large Fowl Cochin Thread

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While politics and egos are obviously involved in anything human, I hope that this thread's recent discussion hasn't lead you this end conclusion. Everything is mostly what you make it. I've never won even a Best of Breed with my Wyandottes or Cochins. I still have them. I still show them and I still state my opinion as it exists. I'm not in it or getting out of it because of the politics or the egos. I'm in it because I love chickens, and the people are pretty nice, too.
 
In my experience, this seems to be a recurrent problem in so many species that people breed. The old varieties that were used to produce other color phases seem to be left by the wayside. They are absorbed or discarded and eventually cease to exist. This is a real concern.
I'm certainly no expert in poultry breeding and am hardly qualified to breed anything beyond egg layers. Excellent quality birds in standard colors should be preserved before we loose them to fad colors.
 
Wow, looks like I missed a lot! I hope nobody has left??

Anyhow... a while back I mentioned that my (supposedly) blue cochin roo was growing a beard. He's big, fluffy, feathered to the max head to toe, but this beard thing is so strange. If I've traced his origin back correctly, he came from a lemon blue cochin project, by a reputable breeder. Now I'm having my doubts about his origin, because I've never seen this before!!!

What do you all think? He's about 3-1/2 months old? Do I have a mutt? Was his mama a floozy?
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So what you're saying is that you did not find it very rewarding to work on a recognized, rare variety that you can't win with in the show hall?

I dont show, I think its a waste of time personally. Like you say, too much politics involved. We raised Registered Red Angus for years and it was the same BS with that as there is with any other animal.
I got rid of the GLC because I didnt like feeding them as much as they ate and not see very much if any progress with them. I love recognized rare varieties, thats basically all I have ever raised. I didnt like the GLC because the lacing was terrible and I kept getting too many chicks with green legs. With my Wyandotte bantams, my emphasis has always been on the rare recognized varieties. Sure I currently have some Dun's(not recognized) but I may not have them for much longer. Another breed I have diligently worked on the past 15 years is the "recognized" White Laced Red Wyandotte bantam. I have raised tons thru the years and by means of an unfortunate predator attack I lost all of them except for two hens who are in excess of 5 years old. Most likely my strain of them will die out as I was unable to hatch any chicks from those two hens with a GL male. I dont get rid of things easily but I like to see improvement. My GLC's were great birds and I loved them but I just wasnt seeing any improvement from them. They had great type and size to them as well but the lacing and green legs kept me from seeing much improvement. I think we raised over 40 last year and honestly less than 5 would have been keepers and they werent as good as their parents at that.
I do try and raise alot and I try to cull heavy. If you accept mediocrity that is what you are going to keep on getting in my opinion. My mentor with Wyandotte bantams told me that he would raise 150 SP bantams each year and cull down to two pairs to breed from the next year. I learned my lesson when he said that because his birds were always exceptional. The only SP wyandotte bantams I have ever seen that could be successfully single mated on a year in year out basis....but I digress..

Sorry if you took my initial reply to Rudy as a personal affront to your breeding practices and preferences. We all like what we like, thats what makes us all individuals. Each of us have our own "favorite" breeds. I have never made one red cent off of my chickens. I dont sell eggs or chicks or adult stock. I raise them because I love chickens. If someone wants to spend all of their time and money on there own choice of chickens more power to them. We need more people who will stand up and say "Hey" I love my breed that I raise! I was only stating I was one of those people who likes to stand up and say HEY I love my breeds I raise
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I was agreeing with Rudy about how I personally dislike poor specimens of breeds or crosses. As I was growing up my Dad, and still to this day loves to play Dr Doolittle with any chicken he has, problem was he was always raising a ton of mongrels not worth a lick and spending resources on those that should have and could have been spent on the pure breeds and developing them more.
Finally, Dak....good luck to you with your GLC's I hope someone can get them to a better state than they are now. Im sorry its just not me anymore. I do love the LF Mottleds though, I have seen Jamie Matts Mottleds and thought they were gorgeous! Mottled has always been one of my favorite feather patterns.......Had awesome Mottled Houdans way back in the day......btw Rudy Im still waiting to see pics of yours
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Any time you buy a "project" bird, IMO, it's critical to ask if it's purebred (which yours is not). There's projects, and then there's projects. And, IMO, a "reputable" breeder will tell you what's gone into his project.
 
LOL, I didn't actually buy him from the breeder, it came from someone who bought it from someone else, who supposedly hatched eggs from the breeder, but whatever
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Obviously some part of that story is wrong!!

I had no intentions of breeding cochins, so in no way am I disappointed. I just picked up a cute (female) chick for the heck of it, and hey! I have a male, bearded, featherfooted fluffball!! I think he is adorable in a weird funny looking way
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I can't wait to see how he turns out when he's full grown!
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Life is just full of surprises sometimes!

Edit: so where's the "mutt thread"? Looks like I'm in the wrong place now!!
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