Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by DMRippy, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. Ana Tidae

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    Don't let the condescension or silence get to you. There are worse breeds to be involved in-lol!
    I have chicks hatching every week. Lavs and splits, good stock, awesome egg color, several years invested in them. PM me and we can work out some details. I don't turn anybody away- the more people we have breeding and showing the better.
     
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  2. kynewbchickie

    kynewbchickie Chillin' With My Peeps

    The "patiently waiting" you mention is something I've been doing for over a year. I had been a member at another poultry forum (name withheld here out of respect), where I originally got into the idea of raising my own flock. That's how I selected the breeds I pre-ordered for this year; the rest were "rescues" from a couple of local farm stores (True Value/TSC) and a few my son brought home from school from a classroom hatch. I was charged Ameraucana prices for EE's but still managed to get them to lower the price at the store, considering the little guys were completely caked in poo and very lethargic - I'm happy I managed to bring them back around and give them a good home. However - I'd had my mind set on working to breed Lavs from the previous forum I was a member of - and I consistently was ignored there. After 9 months of posting basically the same question I did here, I got a nasty reply, openly, from a breeder that was on the forum - telling me that there was a reason for the few breeders and that they kept it that way and I wasn't welcome. Disillusioned, I left membership there, and awaited my order of Aussies for production layers for this season. A local friend sent me to this forum. After calling and emailing and posting and waiting patiently, nearly a year has gone by where I've waited and waited for a breeder to take me seriously about my interest in these birds. I think I've been pretty patient, considering. :)

    I'm working on getting a decent incubator and egg-turner, as it was looking like my only option was going to be to go the shipped-egg route. I should have the equipment by this weekend, thankfully. It's rather pricey, but worth it for breeds such as these that eggs are easier to find, than live birds.

    What I was referring to as "quality chicks" are chicks that are actually REAL Ameraucanas. SO many have been sold EEs as Ameraucanas - and not just from hatcheries. I'm a firm believer that if you're paying for something, that's what you should get. I'm well-researched enough to know that birds will hatch "as-is," and culling is part of the process to getting the best end result from breeding stock. :)

    Maybe that clarifies. I hope so. I might be new to the forum, and new to raising my own flock - but I grew up with Old English chickens that were shown and bred, as well as Limousin/Jersey/Brahma cattle, and AQHA-registered Paint horses. I've just now had the opportunity to get back out in the country and away from ridiculous city and county ordinances on birds, in general, to be able to do anything on my own.

    I'll contact the people you listed - and wait some more. I've already been waiting a year; I guess my gauge of normal wait-time is way lower than what is originally required to even get true Ameraucana chicks...let alone the color variations necessary to isolate the Lav genes.
     
  3. heirloomorps

    heirloomorps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Every time someone asks me for an Ameraucana I ask them if they want a TRUE Ameraucana or just a bird which lays a colored egg. (The answer is about 75% colored egg and 25% Ameraucana with some questioning about true Ameraucanas.)

    I live in a super rural area and constantly get questions about "Orphingtons" and "Domineckers" and "bannys"... I had someone tell me that they could buy hatchery Black Copper Marans for less than mine. You may pay less but they probably won't actually be Black Copper Marans, or they will be a hybrid that doesn't lay a dark egg. You do get what you pay for (except Ameraucanas, apparently).
     
  4. kynewbchickie

    kynewbchickie Chillin' With My Peeps

    The "exclusiveness" stuff is DEFINITELY present in parlor rollers and fantail pigeons, too - my husband and his stepfather can attest to that! His stepdad even received "threats" over his competition flock when he announced he was going into breeding. He'd been a consistent winner, was eager to help others get started - but there were a few folks in that arena that were NOT happy that he was planning on making his prized birds' gene line available to others in the business. I really appreciate your response. After over a year of condescendence and even nasty open replies on another poultry forum when asking about Lavs - or even blue/black/splash - I left that forum and came here on a local friend's recommendation. I'll be in touch - again, thank you! :)
     
  5. kynewbchickie

    kynewbchickie Chillin' With My Peeps

    I hear those descriptive "names" around here, too - I'm in Eastern KY now (came from Central KY) and I am constantly giggling at the pronunciations of some of the breeds - or the lack of even knowing anything at all about breeds in general. I get asked on a weekly basis by a fella in town when I go pick up our feed if I've "got any of them there colored-eggers layin' yet - ain't they old enough to lay once they get their feathers?" ;-)

    I've definitely learned over the years that in livestock, you get people that will pull the wool on you if you don't know what you're looking for, specifically. Rather than argue the validity of the "Ameraucana" label on the chicks I saved at the store, I argued their care, and managed to save money AND lives. The big coop/pasture is for our layer flock - the side pasture is being divided this coming week into three separate pastures and I've got two more coops in progress in the basement for the breeding/show flocks I have planned. I already have one flock going - just need to get the Lavs going and I'm set with all I can handle for the time being! Thanks for the honest reply - congrats on the acquisition of the Lav chicks recently! :)
     
  6. heirloomorps

    heirloomorps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It's why we put off getting Ameraucanas for so long. If we were going to get "Ameraucanas" the BF wanted ACTUAL Ameraucanas and not Easter Eggers. It's tough to find breeders who breed true Ams and not Easter Eggers. We lucked out and found our first pair on Craigslist from someone a little over an hour from us. We also emailed people before and got great responses until it was time to actually purchase chicks/eggs and then it all went quiet. It's a hard breed to get into if you don't already know people.
     
  7. Ana Tidae

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    There are actually quite a few Ameraucana breeders in TN. I don't know why they aren't all on the breeder's directory (hint, hint Donna!). The SE district director is right in Carthage and she goes to tons of shows in the area, and organizes several trade days at TSC. You just have to know where to look.

    But the ABC forum can be scary. I know I am not the only one that doesn't feel comfortable there. That's exactly why Donna started this thread.
     
  8. wlrabbitry

    wlrabbitry Chillin' With My Peeps

    Then I would really like to take a minute to thank Donna. Thank you...Donna....
     
  9. ChickNmamma

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  10. heirloomorps

    heirloomorps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It wasn't Lav breeders we got silence from - we originally looked at BBS. Then crystal creek's Lav's became available and we took that opportunity.
     

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