Lavender Orpington project ....

[WVduckchick]

@RavynFallen I believe has bred lav orps to lav ams, but I forget the future pairings down the line, what color eggs come from the offspring, and such. Ravyn, can you weigh in here?

 

[EggSighted4Life]

@RavynFallen I believe has bred lav orps to lav ams, but I forget the future pairings down the line, what color eggs come from the offspring, and such. Ravyn, can you weigh in here?

OK, thank you.

 

[bit o poultry19]

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Ya, OE & EE or olive egger & easter egger are both mix breeds. I get that but I wonder if the lav will remain true and make a Lavender Olive or Easter Egger.  Yup I'm pretty sure it might be possible almost any breed can be lav!

Also my buff orp isn't mean, just not sit on your lap friendly.   I hear that a lot of hatchery buffs are really friendly, possibly not mine because he is a roo. I didn't really expect him to be a sweetheart knowing he was a hatchery bird. The hatchery silkies I had were very aggressive towards eachother and children. Got rid of those and purchased some from a show breeder and these little fluff balls are very gorgeous and total sweethearts!

 

[Ravynscroft]

@RavynFallen I believe has bred lav orps to lav ams, but I forget the future pairings down the line, what color eggs come from the offspring, and such. Ravyn, can you weigh in here?

Guess I can toss in my 2 cents, lol... I only did a 1st gen cross with Lav Orp and Lav Am though... then I switched to my Lav Orp and Black Australorp project, lol...

Ya, OE & EE or olive egger & easter egger are both mix breeds. I get that but I wonder if the lav will remain true and make a Lavender Olive or Easter Egger. 

Also my buff orp isn't mean, just not sit on your lap friendly.   

If your Lav Am is carrying 2 blue egg genes, then the offspring will be Easter Eggers (not OE's) and lay green eggs... Orpington eggs are too light for getting olives, you'll get greens in first generation... crossing back can be a crap shoot depending on who you breed back to on egg color... going back to the Am will ensure you don't lose blue altogether...

As for the Lavender feather color, yes it will breed true... it doesn't matter the breed, really, if they are Lavender then they have 2 copies and each will always pass down 1 copy to their offspring making them Lav as well...

Hope this helps...

 

[WVduckchick]

Guess I can toss in my 2 cents, lol... I only did a 1st gen cross with Lav Orp and Lav Am though... then I switched to my Lav Orp and Black Australorp project, lol...
If your Lav Am is carrying 2 blue egg genes, then the offspring will be Easter Eggers (not OE's) and lay green eggs... Orpington eggs are too light for getting olives, you'll get greens in first generation... crossing back can be a crap shoot depending on who you breed back to on egg color... going back to the Am will ensure you don't lose blue altogether...

As for the Lavender feather color, yes it will breed true... it doesn't matter the breed, really, if they are Lavender then they have 2 copies and each will always pass down 1 copy to their offspring making them Lav as well...

Hope this helps...

Good point on the egg color. My lav orps egg color varies from barely pink to rosy mauve. So I guess they wouldn't be brown enough to get olive.

Here are 2 charts for reference

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Guess I can toss in my 2 cents, lol... I only did a 1st gen cross with Lav Orp and Lav Am though... then I switched to my Lav Orp and Black Australorp project, lol...
If your Lav Am is carrying 2 blue egg genes, then the offspring will be Easter Eggers (not OE's) and lay green eggs... Orpington eggs are too light for getting olives, you'll get greens in first generation... crossing back can be a crap shoot depending on who you breed back to on egg color... going back to the Am will ensure you don't lose blue altogether...

As for the Lavender feather color, yes it will breed true... it doesn't matter the breed, really, if they are Lavender then they have 2 copies and each will always pass down 1 copy to their offspring making them Lav as well...

Hope this helps...

Great info, thanks!

Do you know how I would know if the Lav am cockerel is carrying 2 blue egg genes? I am deciding right now between culling him altogether or making a bachelor pad. I will need a bachelor pad either way and will probably only breed to the first generation. Then still feed my family. DH isn't thrilled by the color and I definitely have other breeding project going on.

I did find a genetics calculator, that was fun.

It said my buff Orp that is brooding (under my house

) will produce black chicks with her only suitor which was the Lav, if anything hatches.
@WVduckchick Thanks for posting the egg color charts too.

I will probably just bookmark this page for future reference.

 

[Ravynscroft]

Great info, thanks!

Do you know how I would know if the Lav am cockerel is carrying 2 blue egg genes? I am deciding right now between culling him altogether or making a bachelor pad. I will need a bachelor pad either way and will probably only breed to the first generation. Then still feed my family.  DH isn't thrilled by the color and I definitely have other breeding project going on. 

I did find a genetics calculator, that was fun.   It said my buff Orp that is brooding (under my house ) will produce black chicks with her only suitor which was the Lav, if anything hatches.
@WVduckchick
 Thanks for posting the egg color charts too.   I will probably just bookmark this page for future reference. 

Did you hatch him? Where did he come from?

If he's not from known lines the only way to tell is through breeding and growing out his daughters to see what they lay...

And yes, Lav bred to any other color breeds as black since it's a recessive of black... the buff will probably show up in the offspring as major leakage, similar to the pics the other poster put up of Buff Blacks...

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Did you hatch him? Where did he come from?

If he's not from known lines the only way to tell is through breeding and growing out his daughters to see what they lay...

And yes, Lav bred to any other color breeds as black since it's a recessive of black... the buff will probably show up in the offspring as major leakage, similar to the pics the other poster put up of Buff Blacks...

I got him from a local breeder that has John Blehm blood lines only. So yay, I can get Lav EE.! That should be fun.

Thanks again for your time!

 

[bit o poultry19]

My english black pair are getting so big! I can't wait until my 2 lavender pullets begin laying and my black pair are ready for breeding! I will hopefully be shiping by spring so if any one is interested in half English black split to lav orp chicks send me a pm!

 

[kari_dawn]

I have been trying to find lavender orpingtons FOREVER. I have finally acquired two pullets, and since I have looked so hard for so long, I am looking in to breeding them. I am SO sorry if this has been asked before, but can someone explain to me the difference (genetically) between the blues and the self blues (lavenders)? Is it a dilution gene? Would I be better off getting a lavender rooster or a black rooster, and what is black split to lavender? What happens if I cross a lavender rooster over a blue hen? I have one GORGEOUS blue orpington hen, but she is very old. I am considering adding more blues to my flock though.