Lavender Orpington project ....

[Katy]

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He has a lot of dark pattern for a self blue. Are you sure he's not a split or regular blue? We've had cuckoos for a while, but handed them off to a local friend to work on, while we're busy with our other projects. They pop up rather easily from white orps. Pretty birds!

Hink this is what he is.
Brute is a lavender(self blue), Blue, Barred. His genotype is lav/lav (lavender) self blue, Bl/bl+ blue, B/b+ cuckoo/barred with only one gene for barring.

The APA defines self-color as: A single uniform color throughout the plumage.

So how can you call something with barring a self blue?

Is he the result of when your Marans roo got into your Orps' pen?

 

[lildinkem]

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Hink this is what he is.
Brute is a lavender(self blue), Blue, Barred. His genotype is lav/lav (lavender) self blue, Bl/bl+ blue, B/b+ cuckoo/barred with only one gene for barring.

The APA defines self-color as: A single uniform color throughout the plumage.

So how can you call something with barring a self blue?

Is he the result of when your Marans roo got into your Orps' pen?

I can call this cause I am not the one who bred him. He was given to me by a fellow BYCer, who has bred Lavenders for 5 years. Sorry you will have to talk to him. You know him. Ask him.

 

[Katy]

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The APA defines self-color as: A single uniform color throughout the plumage.

So how can you call something with barring a self blue?

Is he the result of when your Marans roo got into your Orps' pen?

I can call this cause I am not the one who bred him. He was given to me by a fellow BYCer, who has bred Lavenders for 5 years. Sorry you will have to talk to him. You know him. Ask him.

Sorry, but the first sentence in your reply makes no sense to me.

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific on who I'm supposed to ask about him.

 

[lildinkem]

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I can call this cause I am not the one who bred him. He was given to me by a fellow BYCer, who has bred Lavenders for 5 years. Sorry you will have to talk to him. You know him. Ask him.

Sorry, but the first sentence in your reply makes no sense to me.

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific on who I'm supposed to ask about him.

I am not at liberty to say "who" he is. He doesn't need the money, nor the fame or interest in what he is doing. he is only focusing on two different projects. He has some customers lined up this coming season and has shut the door for 2011 in selling anymore of his stock. He is limiting his focus and just wanted to share some rare birds with me and one other fellow Lav Orp enthusiast we know.
He says to those who do know a bit about genetics, what I mentioned this bird is telling enough what to call him.
He wanted me to say:
"By the way I have been breeding lavender a little longer that 5 years. I got my first lavenders in 2005, silkies, Amer bantams and some 1/2 large/bantams from John Blehm, rare standard size OEG and of course the infamous pair of EE's."

 

[wilds of pa]

Never fear we may have lav cuckoo orp eggs available by mid 2011 . We never shut the the door in our chicken world. If folks want it they get it.
our friends that own germansville feed company have them. They are 100% orp bloodlines.. How could I possibly know this because they come from our farm. Why sell them, so others can enjoy them. These will not be a total conundrum of genes.. Simple lav barred/cuckoo.
No puppets on a string here... :-D

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

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Hink this is what he is.
Brute is a lavender(self blue), Blue, Barred. His genotype is lav/lav (lavender) self blue, Bl/bl+ blue, B/b+ cuckoo/barred with only one gene for barring.

The APA defines self-color as: A single uniform color throughout the plumage.

So how can you call something with barring a self blue?

Is he the result of when your Marans roo got into your Orps' pen?

Maybe that was wrote before there were barred self blue?

 

[Katy]

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Sorry, but the first sentence in your reply makes no sense to me.

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific on who I'm supposed to ask about him.

I am not at liberty to say "who" he is. He doesn't need the money, nor the fame or interest in what he is doing. he is only focusing on two different projects. He has some customers lined up this coming season and has shut the door for 2011 in selling anymore of his stock. He is limiting his focus and just wanted to share some rare birds with me and one other fellow Lav Orp enthusiast we know.
He says to those who do know a bit about genetics, what I mentioned this bird is telling enough what to call him.
He wanted me to say:
"By the way I have been breeding lavender a little longer that 5 years. I got my first lavenders in 2005, silkies, Amer bantams and some 1/2 large/bantams from John Blehm, rare standard size OEG and of course the infamous pair of EE's."

LOL...You and I are quite aware of why you won't share his name with me.....and it has nothing to do with me wanting birds from him. Why don't you let him know I'd appreciate a pm from him.....if I don't get one I guess I'll have discovered another truth about you Bill.

I think my original question was a very legit question....How can you call a bird with barring a self blue? That isn't what the APA standard says a self-color is.

 

[lildinkem]

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I am not at liberty to say "who" he is. He doesn't need the money, nor the fame or interest in what he is doing. he is only focusing on two different projects. He has some customers lined up this coming season and has shut the door for 2011 in selling anymore of his stock. He is limiting his focus and just wanted to share some rare birds with me and one other fellow Lav Orp enthusiast we know.
He says to those who do know a bit about genetics, what I mentioned this bird is telling enough what to call him.
He wanted me to say:
"By the way I have been breeding lavender a little longer that 5 years. I got my first lavenders in 2005, silkies, Amer bantams and some 1/2 large/bantams from John Blehm, rare standard size OEG and of course the infamous pair of EE's."

LOL...You and I are quite aware of why you won't share his name with me.....and it has nothing to do with me wanting birds from him. Why don't you let him know I'd appreciate a pm from him.....if I don't get one I guess I'll have discovered another truth about you Bill.

I think my original question was a very legit question....How can you call a bird with barring a self blue? That isn't what the APA standard says a self-color is.

you call him what you want. As always you want to make a thread all about me and my birds. I promise you, that I will be showing his offspring, and once he is taken back to his daughters this will then be answered.

 

[hinkjc]

A lavender cuckoo should have more consistent plumage pattern throughout, from my experience with lav/lav birds. Here is a pic of what I would expect them to look like (not my pic).

 

[lildinkem]

Here is my Lav cockerel. He barely has some noticeable barred traits. But their there. And he too can throw the gene same as the cockerel in question. All are from the same person. And we will find out eventually what I have. And I will be very happy to share pics as their offspring growout.