Lets talk about layer feed...

Discussion in 'Feeding & Watering Your Flock' started by shelbylewis, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. shelbylewis

    shelbylewis Songster

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    Okay so I want to start by saying that my chickens are my pets and the eggs are just a nice bonus :) I did a lot of research in the few months that I have had them, but I learn something new everyday. I currently have 3 hens and 1 roo, I did some research on feeding roosters layer feed and I didn't come across anything that said it would be harmful for him. Well now the other day someone posted that her rooster died from gout from the excess calcium in the layer feed that her rooster was eating. What is everyone thoughts on this? I absolutely do not want to hurt my rooster by feeding him layer feed so I am going to switch to an All Flock feed and supply oyster shells for calcium for my girls. What is everyones favorite all flock feeds/oyster shell brands? I want the best!
     
  2. penny1960

    penny1960 Going back to La La Land

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    There is no solid data that it is harmful to feed the same you would need separate quarters to feed otherwise I have had chickens around me most my life never lost one to gout or food
     
  3. Melky

    Melky Crowing

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    The only flockraiser feed here is Purina from TSC. Also Manna Pro Oyster Shell from TSC as cheapest and largest bag. Don’t forget Poultry grit same from TSC.
     
  4. cmom

    cmom Hilltop Farm

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    I seriously doubt it was the layer feed that killed that person's male. I have several males and they eat what the females eat and I have not had one die from the feed.
     
  5. Coop Z-ville

    Coop Z-ville Songster

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    Scratch and Peck Layer Feed can be fed to laying hens and roosters. The company says that you can also feed their Grower Feed to roosters, then supplement oyster shell free choice for the hens. I like this feed because it is minimally processed, certified organic and non-gmo. I don't have a rooster, but my girls love it!
     
  6. cmom

    cmom Hilltop Farm

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    When the birds are molting, I do give them a higher protein feed. These are males in a bachelor coop and pen.
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  7. cmom

    cmom Hilltop Farm

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    Ditto. I wouldn't worry.
     
  8. rebrascora

    rebrascora Free Ranging

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    There are several threads where people who used minimally processed grain mix feeds like Scratch and Peck actually lost birds to Fatty Liver Haemorrhagic Syndrome. They literally dropped dead without warning. It can also lead to reproductive disorders like egg binding and prolapse and salpingitis or internal laying, due to birds becoming obese. The manner in which you feed Scratch and Peck is very important to prevent these problems and I'm not sure that it is made clear on the product. If the birds have access to such feeds 24/7 from a feeder where they can see the feed and bill the feed out, they will often selectively eat the higher carbohydrate components of the feed and leave the pulses which contain more protein. This can lead to a dietary imbalance with the birds converting the surplus carbohydrates to fat which deposits around the vent and narrows the opening leading to laying issues. The fat also starts to build up in and around other organs and the liver is particularly vulnerable. Larger birds like Orpingtons and Sussex are more at risk because they are less active than lighter breeds like Leghorns and therefore burn less of the surplus carbs. The best way to feed the likes of scratch and Peck is to make a wet mash or ferment it and ration it, so that they clean up their daily allowance or go hungry or scatter it on the ground for them to forage for so that they burn off the extra calories, rather than standing at the feeder filling themselves up.
    The issues I mentioned above may only affect one or two birds in a flock and will take months to become a problem but it is worth knowing the risk and changing your feeding regime to negate it.
     
  9. Kris5902

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    I recently posed the same questions in a thread “layer feed and breeding/roosters” I don’t know how to link to it, but several people posted links in it to various in depth studies/articles/papers. You might want to check them out...
     
  10. Shadrach

    Shadrach Roosterist

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    Don't feed roosters layer feed. There is far too much Calcium in it. It can cause liver and kidney damage and hypercalcemia in some cases.
    Here's a recent informative thread about it.
    I suggest you read the posts from ChickenCanoe and the links he's provided.
    I've taken the liberty of providing a link to your post Kris5902.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...reeding-roosters.1282637/page-5#post-20708730

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/layer-feed-and-breeding-roosters.1282637/
     

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