Let's talk Cuckoo and WHITE marans... breeding strategies...

So given that this is a show to get the Cuckoo's accepted, is the proposed SOP descrption of what they should be, listed somewhere and are there any pictures of what should be worked towards?
 
So given that this is a show to get the Cuckoo's accepted, is the proposed SOP descrption of what they should be, listed somewhere and are there any pictures of what should be worked towards?


The APA SOP Committee has no received no paperwork on the Cuckoo yet, but it should be the same description of Cuckoo that is currently used by the APA/ABA. Any description other than that could be a problem.

Bev sent me an email stating that the Cuckoo will be the next color and that they would like to qualify it at Shawnee this year.....but no official paperwork.

Walt
 
The APA SOP Committee has no received no paperwork on the Cuckoo yet, but it should be the same description of Cuckoo that is currently used by the APA/ABA. Any description other than that could be a problem.

Bev sent me an email stating that the Cuckoo will be the next color and that they would like to qualify it at Shawnee this year.....but no official paperwork.

Walt

okay so just read in the SOP what is there. thanks
 
I was asked to be on the committee so I will try to update those of you on here that are trying to get your cuckoo ready too. The color description that was shown to the committe is the same that is listed as cuckoo color for any breed. Just like Walt said :) There were a few questions but no objections to this description.....


Barred as in Cuckoo Plumage Color Standard

Color of Male
PLUMAGE: Bluish white, each feather barred across with irregular light and dark bars; the light and dark bars to be nearly equal in width and to extend throughout the length of the feathers and into all sections of the plumage; shade and depth of color to register the same throughout.

The bars should continue through the shaft of the feathers and into the underfluff and stop short of pure black or white. Each feather should end in a narrow dark bar.

Color of Female
PLUMAGE: Overall appearance is of a darker shade than the male. Each feather is barred across with irregular light and dark bars. The light bars of the female are about one half the width of the dark bars and to extend throughout the length of the feathers and into all sections of the plumage; shade and depth of color to register the same throughout.

The bars should continue through the shaft of the feathers and into the underfluff and stop short of pure black or white.
 
Walt~
Well I am keeping my fingers crossed. I never realized it before but after talking to a few breeders (and disagreeing) I am starting to worry myself about the white tail feather issue. I can only worry about my own birds so that is what I will do. I believe the goal is to have all the birds as close to SOP as possible for the qualifying so I would hope eveyone would understand and do just that.

What I have seen from my uncle's flock of cuckoo is that a lot of cockerels that do not have white tail feathers go on to develop them later on. It could be hard to breed out of them if it is a trait that only shows up when they are 2 or 3 years old. I am lucky that my favorite roo is now 4 and he still shows no white in his tail feathers. He also has well feathered shanks which I didn't realize was so hard to come by as well.

-Nicol
 
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any chance you could show us some pic's of your birds???
Walt~
Well I am keeping my fingers crossed. I never realized it before but after talking to a few breeders (and disagreeing) I am starting to worry myself about the white tail feather issue. I can only worry about my own birds so that is what I will do. I believe the goal is to have all the birds as close to SOP as possible for the qualifying so I would hope eveyone would understand and do just that.

What I have seen from my uncle's flock of cuckoo is that a lot of cockerels that do not have white tail feathers go on to develop them later on. It could be hard to breed out of them if it is a trait that only shows up when they are 2 or 3 years old. I am lucky that my favorite roo is now 4 and he still shows no white in his tail feathers. He also has well feathered shanks which I didn't realize was so hard to come by as well.

-Nicol
 
Here are a few pictures.
The Duel....



Cuckoo eggs on the way to the egg show :)


My whites...showing is hard work.




The egg on the left is from a sport white hen from WJ black coppers the other is from the hen above.
 
We are still looking for good Cuckoos. I would like to have a trio of breeding age or close to breeding age birds. We have a beautiful set of females that lay really dark eggs. We have one male that is nice, but always fear being caught without a back-up. If anyone has an extra male, please let us know. We are hatching eggs now, but it will take a while to grow them out.

We show our Marans. Quality is important to us. We are currently working on Whites and Cuckoos. If anyone out there has good Cuckoos for sale, please let me know.

Thanks,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
 
I WANT TO SEE MORE CUCKOO PICTURES!!!!

COME ON ERNIE....I PROMISE TO SEND YOU A PAIR!!!

Here is a picture of one cockerel that I hatched this year that I really like. He is around 8 weeks old here.

 
Please post some more cuckoo pictures. :)

It would be nice to see variations in patterns, bar width etc.

Have any of you bred single bar roos? I would LOVE to see pictures of them.

Thanks!!

-Nicol
 

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