chickee, the birds you mentioned may have been used for the COLOR itself but NOT the marans breed. Other parent birds bloodlines were used to create the cuckoo marans. The genetics from their parent birds are within and although you try to cull out those leg features, (whcih takes time) they may show up during any generation of birds. They are beautiful, but trying to define and tweak their repeat is very difficult. I read more articles on the Marans than naught while I sat in wait for 2 years to acquire some of the goldens. It was by pure dumb luck that I acquired some. I truly wish I had gotten the black coppeers instead. The eggs are known to be the darkest of the breed and they are more noted, especially if you can get the feathered leg version. The U.S. only has the clean legged birds.
