Let's talk Golden Cuckoo Marans!

[morbius18]

I would be very interested in that. I love the breed and i am very upset to have some nice hens and no rooster.

Ive always got too many roosters, lol. One of me hens seems to throw more males. What part of the country do you live in?

 

[morbius18]

I've got an odd pullet. She started off brown from my F1xf1 cross. Her comb got red quick and I assumed a cockeral. As she has matured, she has gotten interesting looking, but something is off about her:

Chick pics:

Currently:

She appeared Eb at hatch, looks like an e+ with the gold breast. She also has a yellow beak. But white/pink legs.

 

[morbius18]

Another interesting one from the same hatch. A really really light double barred cockeral.

 

[morbius18]

he do have some extra gene preventing the barring on the chest . or he simply have a load of extra copper .

I do like his shoulders .well colored .rich red/orange color .

this is on of the reason I like to mate the F1 between them selves to see what hidden genes they carry .

chooks man

Recent pic:

I'm blowing you away with questions and pictures, but I dug one up from this guy when he was younger and he did indeed have chest barring, it just went away.

Younger pics:

Would an extra dose of copper cause this? I do remember these guys having brown faces when they hatched. I wonder if the pic of the pullet that was brown is the female version of these genes being expressed. His saddle feathers look like all copper with no barring present. You can see that he had barring before though.

 

[morbius18]

A few more pics of the Blue copper and splash copper cockerals from Bev Davis line:

I got them as day olds hoping for a few blue or splash pullets. Got one blue and one splash of both sexes.

Blue copper pullet:

And my Golden cuckoo olive egger came up and wanted her picture taken too. She was just looking at me and waiting:

 

[Chooks man]

I've got an odd pullet. She started off brown from my F1xf1 cross. Her comb got red quick and I assumed a cockeral. As she has matured, she has gotten interesting looking, but something is off about her:

Chick pics:





Currently:



She appeared Eb at hatch, looks like an e+ with the gold breast. She also has a yellow beak. But white/pink legs.

she is a eb for sure,
partridge based the lacing ( from the partridge ) is giving a different look when mixed with a Cuckoo B gene.

she is a cuckoo partridge based .the lacing turned into barring .

this one reason why the GCM should be ER based to give it that nice clean balanced pattern between the cuckoo ,the golden and the black . nice marking a same as a BCM or Birchen marans .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Recent pic:



I'm blowing you away with questions and pictures, but I dug one up from this guy when he was younger and he did indeed have chest barring, it just went away.

Younger pics:



Would an extra dose of copper cause this? I do remember these guys having brown faces when they hatched. I wonder if the pic of the pullet that was brown is the female version of these genes being expressed. His saddle feathers look like all copper with no barring present. You can see that he had barring before though.

a same as a pullet . he carries a extra lacing genes ,they are interfering the barring genes.

the copper has nothing to do with it ,because the s+ is sex linked doesn t cause changes in the expression of the cuckoo gene.

what your chooks are exhibiting is the Autossomal red AR ( AR genes govern the chest and the shoulder color ). same as a Black copper you can get an over colored chest and too much or none color at the shoulder .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Another interesting one from the same hatch. A really really light double barred cockeral.

this one is a good example of the luck of the autossomal Red . not enough .

like I said to you before I ll select a rooster with a Red/Orange shoulder same as a BCM selection . to keep the balance between the Gold and a Barring .

a pulle without hackle are lucking the balance of the s+ . not enough gold .same what we see with a Black pullet from a BCM .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

A few more pics of the Blue copper and splash copper cockerals from Bev Davis line:


I got them as day olds hoping for a few blue or splash pullets. Got one blue and one splash of both sexes.

Blue copper pullet:


And my Golden cuckoo olive egger came up and wanted her picture taken too. She was just looking at me and waiting:

they look great to me as far as body conformation.

let see the egg color .

very interesting pairs .

chooks man

 

[morbius18]

this one is a good example of the luck of the autossomal Red . not enough .

like I said to you before I ll select a rooster with a Red/Orange shoulder same as a BCM selection . to keep the balance between the Gold and a Barring .

a pulle without hackle are lucking the balance of the s+ . not enough gold  .same what we see with a Black  pullet from a BCM .

chooks man

I'm guessing that I will see more and more of this type as I'm selecting for lighter hackle color. This guy is late to show color, so usually that means light straw color hackling.