little giant 9300

Just put 2 dozen assorted eggs in the 9300 at 8:30pm. I bought the 9300 at TSC almost 3 months ago. and the egg turner. It's ran off and on a dozen times checking out warm/cool spots with a "human" temperature thermometer. Most of the human ones are within 2/10's of a deg accuracy and I used 3 different ones I have here and they were all within 1/10 deg of each other... I checked one of my remote reading weather station boards that the air speed had shot craps on..the temp and humidity still worked so I stuck it in ice water (in a ziplock bag) and used the saturated air/wet salt test (sensor in a ziplock "mostly" zipped up) for the humidity...it reads 3/10's degree low compared to the human thermometer...the humidity is 2% high reading...so that's one of the two I used to check this 9300 incubator out with.
The humidity reading on the stock 9300 "meter"/controller is goofy above 65% or below 40%..the temp controller reading has to be set to 100 degs to get 99.3 to 99.8 reading swing on the stock controller but on the added calibrated thermometers it's fairly stable at 99.6 or 99.8. But it holds a steady temp range right there for days...and days!
Right now the eggs are still warming up cuz the temp reading is 99.4 to 99.6 almost on the eggs themselves. It's only been just almost 2 hours so far.. Humidity seems to have stabilized out at about 35%. I'm going to run a dry hatch! I'll just have to let it run there cuz the house indoor humidity is sitting on 50%.
I installed a fairly new computer power supply fan "kit" inside the little plastic heater enclosure myself, it looks stock. It's not all that strong but it keeps heat fairly well distributed. But is 25% more airflow then a stock Little Giant...but that's ok I guess? It has it's own power supply (repurposed wall wart from "something" that used 12volts DC) going to it, I didn't want to use the stock 9300 fan pins with a strange fan.
Eggs are from a local part-time hobby type farmer. I broke one open cuz it had a small chunk of shell missing... the membrane was intact but dark/dirty... I candled it....clear of course...I looked at the bulls-eye fertilized telltale spot on the yoke...good! And he sells only fertilized eggs...for eating or hatching and they are 2 bucks a dozen ( bought 3 dozen...one for eating and culling and only picking the best shape/size/color for hatching) which makes them a real good buy at todays supermarket prices!
I have a mix of eggs all from this morning or afternoon's laying, I suppose that should be fresh enough! and not refrigerated ..mostly brown or several lightly-brownish pink...but 2 of them are light almost olive green. EE?..and 3 of them are really dark brown ...Morans. a few are a very light tanish-green. That feller has a mixed flock of birds with "mostly" a SLW roo, he looks handsome and quite capable! and mounted one hen while I was there....hens are mixed of course. It's a large flock of mixed birds..lol
And in the middle of next week sometime I go and pick up a SLW?/NHR? 8-9 month old mixed roo...a pretty bird!! and a younger 16-17 week old Maran/Blue Maran mixed roo... at the same fellers little farm.. $10 ea.. not too bad.
We will see if one of these cheap but well tuned and calibrated styro-bators can do a credible job hatchin some chik'ns. I have my remote sensor alarm set to beep me awake or at least get my attention if the temp drops below 99 degrees..

 
I have the LG 9300 (No fan) and it's day #10 of my first hatch. I bought a Thermometer/Hygrometer from Bed Bath and Beyond just to verify that readings were correct. Unfortunately, my LG and the BB&B one have never been very close (give or take 3 degrees at all times, depending upon where in the LG they were placed). I finally went and bought a non-digital thermometer/hygrometer to find out which one was right. I also purchased a USB Fan ($1) and a USB extension cord ($4.88) to get air circulating, which I guessed might be part of my issue.
Put the new thermometer/hygrometer in. Plugged in the USB fan and, sadly, it was too high powered and started cooling the LG to quickly. After removing the fan and letting it get back up to temp I decided to cut down the blades of the cheap fan a little. Put it back in, now everything is reading exactly the same.
Thought I'd share this cheap way to get air circulation. Walmart: $1 fan + $4.88 USB extension cord = $5.88 (plus tax) and finally there isn't a multiple degree difference throughout the Incubator.
Yay!!!


Yes, I know there are 4 thermometers in this picture (there's actually another that you can't see). I was trying to be sure... do you think I overdid it? lol
 
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I have the LG 9300 (No fan) and it's day #10 of my first hatch. I bought a Thermometer/Hygrometer from Bed Bath and Beyond just to verify that readings were correct. Unfortunately, my LG and the BB&B one have never been very close (give or take 3 degrees at all times, depending upon where in the LG they were placed). I finally went and bought a non-digital thermometer/hygrometer to find out which one was right. I also purchased a USB Fan ($1) and a USB extension cord ($4.88) to get air circulating, which I guessed might be part of my issue. Put the new thermometer/hygrometer in. Plugged in the USB fan and, sadly, it was too high powered and started cooling the LG to quickly. After removing the fan and letting it get back up to temp I decided to cut down the blades of the cheap fan a little. Put it back in, now everything is reading exactly the same. Thought I'd share this cheap way to get air circulation. Walmart: $1 fan + $4.88 USB extension cord = $5.88 (plus tax) and finally there isn't a multiple degree difference throughout the Incubator. Yay!!! Yes, I know there are 4 thermometers in this picture (there's actually another that you can't see). I was trying to be sure... do you think I overdid it? lol
Great idea. I think you did it just right.
 
Day 9 of this journey.. air temp after eggs stabilizing for 12+ hours has stayed just about 99.7 to 99.9 at egg mid-way after I set it down 2/10's of a deg on the 9300 display. I found my calibrated analog big dial thermometer, rechecked it at freezing and boiling both...dead accurate still. 9300 is running dry humidity, the house humidity has ran from low 40's to high 50%. Room temp has ran from 74 to 81 degrees...styro-box 9300 has ran right about where it's supposed to run. No diddling of the dial (buttons) after getting the temp stable after getting room temp eggs up to 99.5-100.. just the one time after setting.
Candled on 7 days...2 possible clears, but left them in a marked spot. Had a couple that showed slight veining. Only candled 7 or 8....not stinkers so I left all of them. Candled tonight at 9 days. Of the 2 possible clears one has slight veining showing with a really active "spot" that wiggles!! Several have little wiggly spots that seem to want to avoid the really bright 9 LED flashlight I use to candle with..There's 2 or 3 that are too dark at midsection but at the big end with the air sac there's slight veining showing..maybe. The Green eggs and really dark Marans only have dark areas in middle that "possibly" move..but the air sac is growing I can see. Left all of them...even the one that's more then likely clear/infertile.. Still no stinkers so they all gonna stay for a few more days. May have to cull about day 14-18..unless some stink before that. Looks "possibly" like there's 20+ that are developing. Several have really active (for 9 days old) squirmy shaking critters inside.
Humidity has ran from 29% for a low up to 41% when it had rained outside. My digital humidity gage has been calibrated with the wet salt plastic bag method.
I had no idea those eyeball/brain spots would move like they can. But then again I hadn't had any hatching eggs to watch and candle (and they were under a hen even then, funniest thing to watch back then was a Banty hen sitting on 6 turkey eggs for my younger brothers FFA project...she hatched all 6!) since I was in high school out on my dad's farm..and I graduated from dear old HHS in '66. It's been a while! But a couple of my sons had chicken/duck projects for the high school FFA/Vo-Ag class about 10 years ago..
But so far...fingers crossed and eyes vigilent on temp gages... it's been fun and mostly hands off, except to candle and rotate eggs 1/4 turn vertically and outside eggs to middle and vica versa.every 3 days (none under heating element or holes close to element!) ..candle a few for something to do.. and took the flat plastic crap off of that temp probe at day 2 and taped it onto a golf ball with the free end (temp sensor part) about 3/4" away from the ball and mid-egg height. Temp is more stable now.That temp sensor with the flat plastic plate holding it has to be the most ill-thought out plan since Custer rode into the Little Big Horn area to find where the Indians were. I also poked the humidity sensor...the short lead sensor...almost up into the controller so it wouldn't fluctuate so quickly in the air from the fan.
I had the electric fail coming into the house Monday morningat 4am! cuz of a burnt main breaker out in the meter base... only one phase and I caught the failure cuz my dog knew something went south and barked.. I changed the incubator to a receptacle that was still hot on B phase and the air temp came right back up in 3 minutes... it wasn't long.. it's all still good!!
Ordered a new main breaker Tues morn..got it off the UPS truck Thurs at 2pm..installed it yesterday morning and the incubator air temp only dropped 1 degree cuz I threw a thick folded towel over it to keep the heat in...30 minutes and power was back up, it could have been just 15 minutes but the linemen replaced the weather head the original elect linemen installers broke 16 years ago! .. (I'm a retired electrician and replaced my own breaker) 2 minutes with the power back on and the incubator temp was back steady too :)
Soooo..the ongoing saga of the cheap Little Giant 9300 incubator continues! I have some hopes now and getting close to counting my chickens...I hope...lol !!
 
Day 12....candled the whole lot of eggs. Looks like one is a non-fertile starter ..it's clear...2 gave up about one week+ in.. judging by the size of floating "stuff" inside which looks mostly clear with slightly longish dark stuff inside but it doesn't look like a blood ring. More like bones forming. The other 21 have developed further along and it's getting too dark inside them to see much besides little skinny wings/legs once in a while turning them in the light. All 21 have nicely growing in size air sacs..still running a dry hatch with no added humidity...And NO stinkers yet .
The 3 "probably nots" were set to one corner to sit for a few more days...or start stinkin. In 2-3 more days if there's no further darkening/developing of them they will be gently cracked open and looked at and pitched out in the compost after a heavy dose of firey hot pepper sauce on them. My outdoor compost is very active and eats up just about anything you stick in it since it's warm outside. But I don't need wild critters developing a taste for raw eggs, hence the hot sauce.
The saga continues.
 
Day 17 or 18 and 5/8ths????...lol... Had 6 no-starters or slightly started and then no more development at day 15. Candled all and culled those 6 at 15 days.
Put 18 (no stinkers) into lock-down after taking out egg turner today and taking one of the fans off-line where they possibly could get their fuzzy heads into the blades and added a 1/2 cup of tepid water across 3 troughs. Humidity has been sitting on 54% for several hours. I figured since the temp had remained steady at 100 degrees about egg high for most of the time with fan(s) blowing they may hatch slightly early, so I started lock-down a few hours early today. Quickly candled only 3 eggs when putting back in incubator...dark slightly squirmy objects inside ...dinosaurs??..
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. Must have not liked being moved or handled? We will see.. I suppose.
 
First pip at 4 hours earlier then 21 days.
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Hopefully it will continue with a bunch more (18 in bator) of them.. There was a lot of sounds of pecking until the bright candling light got shined inside the bator to take the pic...A few faint peeps/chirps too. Sounded like more then 4-5 of them trying to find daylight and air.
I guess by being 4 hours early they just can't tell time.. silly chickens..
I don't even know why I was "sitting" these eggs, except maybe to try out this LG9300 I had bought months and months ago.. I haven't even quite got their coop or fence done yet....or even the brooder box brought in the house for their first week or two.. I did make a brooder heater from a plastic storage box, some sand, and a weatherproof rope light string... it heats up to about 94 degrees under it and it's on legs keeping it 5" up off the bottom/pine shavings/bedding. Very little light escapes out of it too. It takes 5 hours to reach temp too. Lots of heat holding capabilities there!
Come on momma nature!
 
Got 4 or 5 more pips coming along now...no zips yet. One is an EE egg.. :) One for sure is Marans or some kinda really dark choco egg.. I'm thinkin the only dark egg layers my supplier feller had was
Black or Blue Copper Marans.


 

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